The Christmas Invasion
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T'was the night before Christmas an entire species was dead, all because a murderous
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woman hadn't had enough time in bed. Welcome to our Christmas special everybody, and happy
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3rd of September.
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Alright there we go, that's half of our listeners have just stopped. That's embarrassing. That's
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embarrassing.
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I like that though.
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It's alright, no it's alright actually, we'll commit to it. Yeah, does the mic hit me?
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And that's a JP original as well.
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That is, that is, thank you. I'm going to be trending on Spotify next week so, you know,
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I want to say thank you to all my fans in advance. Yeah, poetry. Christmas poetry. As
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I said, happy 3rd of September everybody. I'm looking outside, there's no snow on the
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ground and yet we're doing a Christmas special and I'm feeling Christmassy.
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Well, yes, welcome back everybody to another episode of Doc Who Pods, Doctor Who? I'm Josh
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and with me as always is my co-host William Shakespeare. Ho ho ho. How are you JP, you
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alright?
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I'm good, I'm good. I mean there's no tree up and there's no presents so, you know, I
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can't get in that much of a Christmas mood but I'm in a Christmas mood so I think this
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is probably the earliest I've ever been in a Christmas mood.
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At least you're not going to be attacked by a spinning Christmas tree.
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That is true actually, that is a fair point and my walls aren't made of plaster so I should
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be alright but you know.
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Right, well everybody this is our Christmas special episode. Technically we haven't started
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season 2 yet, technically we haven't finished season 1, we're in that sort of weird middle
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point. I'd like to thank all our listeners before we get started. We put out a little
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sort of challenge for you guys, see if we can get a thousand listens by series 2 and
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we are on about 950 odd so I'm hoping by the time we record season 2 episode 1 we'll be
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there so thank you very much listeners. As always, you guys are brilliant, just whatever
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you're listening on just take two seconds, just give us a little five stars, give us
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a little review, we'll read it out in the episode, share us, like us, comment with us,
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engage us but yeah thanks guys and Christmas invasion JP, you ready?
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Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready.
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I want to go in and say this is my least rewatched episode of all of Doctor Who I think. I went
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into this thinking it's an awful, awful episode and it's one of my least favourites from memory
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so I hadn't watched it for a while. Just generally before we jump into it, there's a lot of good
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stuff in this but I think it's let down by the finale, by big time.
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Yeah, I mean, for me this is of course the first Doctor Who special I've watched and
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for me it was more, I forgot that it was a Christmas special, I was more looking at this
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as a David Tennant, flexing the muscles, flexing the acting muscles even though he spent half
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of it asleep. It was a kind of an introduction, they wanted to, just like the pilot episode
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with Rose, they wanted to get out there, just push David Tennant as much and just show this
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is the new Doctor, this is what he brings to the table, please try and forget about
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Christopher Ecclestone.
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Yeah, no, I liked it as a special, yeah the ending was a little bit, and as I said I was
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a bit annoyed that they managed to just keep the Doctor asleep for half of the episode.
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I know, what an interesting way to introduce a new Doctor, just having him asleep for most
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of it, like, very interesting, very interesting.
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Yeah, no it is, and it's a bold move by the writers I guess because I suppose that even
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though, because that was the other thing as well, the underlying theme of this episode
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was that the Doctor is still the Doctor even though he's a different person.
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Yeah, of course, because everybody asks that question every two seconds.
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Exactly, and it's a very, I mean I'm still trying to get my head around it in fairness,
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but it's like, you know, the Doctor is still the Doctor, he's still got the memories of
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the previous Doctor and he's still got the relationships there, but he's his own new
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person.
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Yeah, it's strange isn't it, it's like you've got a brand new person with brand new identity
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and personality and all that, but you've had the old memories downloaded into it sort of
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thing, like, yeah I mean, it fucking blew my mind back as a kid, obviously this was
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my first Christmas special, yeah I think it does a pretty good job of explaining that,
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but okay he's the same Doctor, you know, he finishes the line with fantastic or finishes
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the episode with fantastic, sorry, and I'm like, okay, good callback, yeah, okay, so
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it is still the Doctor, just the new Doctor who is apparently asleep all the time.
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I want to like more, come on, you needed to do more in this episode, right?
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I mean, I think the only thing is, is maybe the reason they've done that was to kind of
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focus on what was the same in season one, because I know this is technically season
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one, but they wanted to focus more on the companions, so Rose, Mickey, Rose's mum, yeah
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even bringing back Harriet Jones, yeah the familiar stuff, kind of, exactly, bring the
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familiar stuff in and then gently introduce the new stuff, even though it's technically
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not new, but like, I don't know, it was just a bit, it was a bit strange and what's interesting
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is that, you know, all throughout season one we've always been saying that actually it's
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the Doctor's companions that save the day, rather than the Doctor, whereas this one straight
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off the bat, the first thing the Doctor saves the day.
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Yeah, we'll get to that, because that's where I think my main issues come into play, but
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should we just stick to our normal routine, should we go through it sort of beat by beat?
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Yeah, no, exactly, exactly, so of course it starts off with, you know, kind of Mickey
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working in the garage, which I could totally see, that suits his character, I get that,
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and Jackie, I can't remember, she's just in the apartment, isn't she, she's in the flat,
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and of course they both miraculously hear the TARDIS kind of whining, and it's a familiar
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noise, it's a distinct noise, you're going to know it, but what just made me laugh was
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the two shots of them just running around London, just trying to locate it, and it's
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almost like, you know, you ever see those videos where they're kind of like, you know,
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when an owner's got like a squeak toy for a dog, and they're squeaking the toy and the
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dog's like really confused running around like, where is it, where is it, it just reminded
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me of that, which is hilarious, so to see these two like skirting around London just
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trying to find this like TARDIS.
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Yeah, I thought-
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Would you make each other?
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Yeah, I hadn't sort of put this together, but like, when they do meet, and then Jackie
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starts going, she's alive, you see, I said so, I said, like, they probably had the same
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six month jump that we had, right, the last episode would have come out, and I think we
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said June or something like that, and now it's Christmas, like, I forgot, they didn't
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know that Rose saves the day at the end of that episode, and they don't apparently come
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straight back, they come back six months later, so she had like another six months of thinking
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her daughter was dead, that's pretty fucked up.
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Yeah, yeah, no, it is pretty messed up, and it's one of those things that even though
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chronologically for Rose and the Doctor, it was just, that was the end of the episode
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was then the start of the season, yeah, kind of the Christmas special, as you say, for
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Rose and sorry, for Jackie and Mickey, that six months has passed, you know, that's, you
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know, we're almost living on that earth, and for us, six months was their six months, so.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would have been when it came out, and again, like you said, that's
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that familiar theme that's carrying through, because obviously, we had the episode where
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she went missing for a year, so yeah, I hadn't picked up on that, but you're right, they
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are trying to keep it as familiar as possible and slowly, slowly introduce us to this new
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Doctor, so good picking up.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Brilliant bit of advice right at the start there, remember kids, never drink and fly
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at Christmas, they go to the same for driving as well, it's always a dodgy time, the old
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bill will always out.
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I genuinely thought he was drunk at first, I was waiting for the Doctor to stumble out
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with some eggnog or something like that, I was sitting there thinking, I mean, that's
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a bit of a kind of a sticky thing to be putting on the BBC, and then of course, they said
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that he was under the weather and actually he was ill and he needed to, you know, he
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needed time in bed and a cup of tea, but yeah.
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Which is a hangover cure, that's what it is, it's a hangover cure.
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Exactly, exactly.
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I love the thing where they just said Doctor Who, and I just put roll credits.
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Oh, so cheesy, so cheesy.
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It also doesn't even work in context, what do you mean Doctor Who?
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The Doctor, you know the Doctor, what are you talking about Doctor Who?
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But yeah, I was like, quick, get the Capri out there, there's me sitting with a beer
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and I'm just like, oh, that one, that one, that one.
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But yeah, so then they pull the Doctor into the apartment and of course they somehow put
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PJs on him, which was a bit of a strange one, but fair enough, you know.
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Yeah, who was looking at his dick?
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Yeah, well, apparently not Jackie though, because Jackie then goes in and of course
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Rose is like, oh, he's got two hearts and Jackie's like, anything else he's got two
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of?
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It's like, damn Jackie, he's only been here like 10 minutes, he's on it again.
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It is a funny episode again, to be fair.
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It is a very funny episode and Jackie has some, I always forget how good a character
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Jackie is, she is fucking hilarious.
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She just comes out with, you know, some absolute brilliance and she's that kind of, they've
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taken every kind of stereotypical trait of a mum, and they've just combined it into Jackie,
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which it just works, you know.
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Every kid kind of watching Doctor Who can look at Jackie and take one thing away and
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go, my mum does that.
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Yeah, exactly.
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My mum says that or something like that, which I think is really cool.
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I do like that.
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But yeah, I could swear the Moana theme tune was going again.
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I feel like the kind of the energy linkage thing is, it's set to a very, very similar
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kind of theme tune to Moana.
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We said this last week, you have to do, just screen grab it, screen grab the Moana theme
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tune, put it back to back for us, we'll release it on the socials and we will let our listeners
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be the judge, because I've never seen Moana, I've never heard it.
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I don't know what people think about it.
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Another child.
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Yeah, but I am at heart.
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So you know, it is what it is.
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And then I think another theme that goes through kind of this episode is Harriet Jones.
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Oh, isn't she pretty good?
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The stages of Harriet Jones.
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So I put Harriet Jones going big.
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She's the PM now.
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You know, she's up there.
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She's announcing that they've got this new kind of space program about and what I've
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really liked as well, kind of a little attention to detail was in Aliens in London, the whole
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reason she's at number 10 is because she wants her cottage home medical scheme thing.
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And of course, the PM's like, look, this is an important at the moment.
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And along the bottom, you can see that the cottage home scheme is an incredible success
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or something like that.
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Oh, no way.
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Which I really, really liked.
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I was like, oh, I like that.
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That is a true attention to details.
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I like that.
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You know, that is pretty cool.
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Yeah, I love that.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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So speaking of Harriet Jones, I was going to save this like trivia at the end.
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But so when we last saw her in Aliens in London in World War Three, as the Dr. Rose Lever,
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he goes, this is the start of Britain's golden age.
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She's elected as prime minister and she runs for three successive terms.
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Right.
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And there is a theory in the Huk, the Huk, the Huk, I can't say this, the Huk community
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that the doctor fucks up the world.
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And it's never confirmed, but there's a lot of evidence.
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So without spoiling anything for you.
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Right.
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She was the doctor himself says she's supposed to run for three successive terms.
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And this is the start of Britain's golden age.
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Obviously, she then sends probes.
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She's doing a lot of things.
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She's very progressive.
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Yep.
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And then the doctor, you know, we're jumping ahead here, but stops her in our tracks.
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Right.
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With that, you think she looks tired.
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And then all of a sudden she's being questioned and spoiler alert, she does lose the next
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election.
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Right.
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That's right.
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Ooh.
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One of the big bads in I don't think it's I think it's the series of series three, I
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think it is, is the new prime minister is the new bad.
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Right.
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And he basically fucks everything up.
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And the theory is, is that the doctor put the when we get to season three, we'll come
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back and review it because it will make more sense to you.
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But the theory is that the doctor put these events in motion.
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And just like he fucked up with the long game and all that sort of stuff, he makes the same
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mistake here and he prevents Britain's golden age from happening and creates the big bad
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for season three and so on and so forth.
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A really interesting theory.
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Yeah, really interesting theory.
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Yeah, no, that is interesting.
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Yeah, I just I like this that kind of stuff.
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And talking to those kind of attention to details and kind of, you know, kind of plot
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overall plot progression, everything, I'm going to put my kind of cards on the table
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early doors here with the Easter egg, because you said to me last episode that the Easter
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egg does appear in this in this in this episode.
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Yes.
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Can I just interject here really quickly?
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I forgot how obvious the Easter eggs in this series are.
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So I'm not going to I'm going to ask you the question every week, but I'm not going to
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give you a yes or no, because I want you to continue picking up on it if you do get it
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in a certain way.
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So I'm not going to confirm or deny it.
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But go ahead, JP.
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Yeah.
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So I mean, when Mickey and Rose are walking through, there is two big angel Christmas
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decorations there.
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And I saw those and was like straight away because I said about the thing in the in the
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season finale, you know, whether the Daleks are going on about angels and demons and everything
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else.
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Yeah.
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It's some kind of spiritual thing with angels.
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I could just you know, you just see that they're blind and the obvious they're in the background,
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but they're so huge.
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It's like it's got to be that.
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So I'm saying it's like to do with angel.
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I mean, I don't know whether it's like the bad guys and angel or like whether it's like
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the angel corporation or something.
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But I'm saying it's something to do with angels and demons, something like that.
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That's what I'm saying.
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OK, interesting.
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Yeah.
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See it through.
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I'll see it through next week if you can follow this this train of thread through.
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It'll be very interesting.
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Yeah.
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You watch.
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Very obvious.
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Yeah, it was very obvious this this episode.
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But yeah, we'll say no more on that matter.
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That'll make a good sound bite for the next end of series.
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Yeah.
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Here we go.
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Yeah.
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The pain of listening to that over and over again.
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Just like, oh, but yeah, so that's that's my kind of that's my guess on the Easter egg
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so far.
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I then put Chris with themed purge.
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OK, yeah, because the little set of the sentence with the, you know, with the masks and the
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kind of the concealed weapons just really gave me the purge vibes, you know, that kind
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of the plastic mask thing that, you know, everybody dressed up in on Halloween.
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When was it?
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Twenty fifteen, maybe twenty.
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Yeah, with the neon.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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It just it just really just I was like, oh, yeah, kind of that kind of reminds me of
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that.
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Yeah, it's just a bit weird.
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They were just waiting there.
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Well, I've got a lot of questions on this.
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Go on.
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Why did they attack?
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Right.
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Like the villains motivations throughout this.
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So there's the whole thing about the pilot fish, right?
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They send the pilot fish out.
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They recognize the futuristic technology.
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They're clearly tracking Rose and Mickey and they've got the Christmas tree in the estate.
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So they clearly know where the doctor is.
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The TARDIS is in the vicinity.
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But then the sycorax invade.
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And it's like the doctor is completely forgotten about.
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And then all of a sudden, it's about this blood thing and we're going to make them jump.
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So surrender to us.
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And then all of a sudden, you know, they press a button in the TARDIS and it starts bleeping.
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They're like, oh, you have alien technology that you've hidden from us.
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Like you must be traitors.
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What are you talking about?
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You knew this alien technology was here.
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You that's that was the reason I don't understand that.
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Like what happened there?
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It felt a bit muddled to me.
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Yeah, that's a fair point.
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Actually, that doesn't really make sense because the way I saw it was straight away.
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They began for the doctor because the doctor was powerful.
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He was almost like a human battery kind of thing.
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He had all this excess energy that they wanted.
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And that's why they wanted to kind of.
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Yeah, I thought that they were going after Rose and Mickey because they knew that Rose
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and Mickey were the only protection that he had.
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Yeah, because he's he's almost in what I was kind of assuming was like a coma kind of thing.
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So he was he was vulnerable.
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And the only defense that he had was Rose and Mickey.
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So that's that's the assumption I took.
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But yeah, actually going kind of looking further into the plot, it doesn't actually make an
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awful lot of sense, does it?
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No, it doesn't.
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Right. OK.
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It makes for a cool bit.
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Yes, you can have the Christmas tree attacking.
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You can have the Santa robots attacking and it's all very Christmasy.
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But I don't know, man.
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It didn't feel like it was part of this.
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It was almost like I was almost expecting this setting up something in the future.
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The pilot fish are going to be something else coming.
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But yeah, no, nothing, apparently.
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Yeah, no, they were the pilot fish.
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But yeah.
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And I've got to say, you know, it just made me laugh for that.
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They're there in the Christmas market and there's just bullets flying everywhere.
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Rocket launchers going below, hitting absolutely nothing apart from, you know, kind of stationary
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decorations.
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And I was just like, so watching the Russians on the news, you know, just it's all, you
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know, they did hit a Christmas tree which proceeded to fall on to one of their own people.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It was like the home alone version of like the purge.
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You know, what if the purge was run by the home alone bandits, you know, just utter nonsense.
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And talking about the nonsense.
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I mean, what was up with the Christmas tree?
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I'm sorry.
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Oh, no, it's fucking it's Christmas for the sake of Christmas is what it is.
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It is.
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It is.
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And it just made me laugh because they just had the table there and you knew that they
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put the table there just to show that the Christmas tree was exactly.
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Again, I'm looking at it thinking, well, it's obviously going to be made out of like, you
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know, kind of a plastic kind of thing.
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So like, you know, when you go like kind of into a car wash and you get those big like
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kind of buffers that go around and drive your car through, I was thinking like it's going
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to be like that.
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I was like, OK, it's going to be something like kind of, you know, not dangerous, but
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at the same time, it's not going to be, you know, kind of you're not going to want to
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touch it.
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But then it just cut through a table like it was made of paper.
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I was like, OK, that's why they've done it there.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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The Christmas tree was a strange one.
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As I said, I just, you know, when it started cutting through the wall and I was just like,
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it's so cringy.
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Mickey's fighting it off with a chair as if it's going to do anything.
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It's not a rabid dog or a lion.
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You can't fight it off.
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I know it's a ropey moment, to be honest with you, but it does give way to a good scene
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that I like.
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And it is where Rose whispers into the doctor's ear, help me.
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And he just gets straight back up, saves the day.
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And I'm like, OK, it shows the doctor still has like, Rose is his one motivating factor.
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I think that's a good way of showing that.
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I quite liked that.
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Yeah, no, that was good.
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And again, it shows that, you know, even though the doctor's in peril and he's himself is
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in a vulnerable situation, he's still willing to straight away just on Rose.
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He's up and he's straight away, he's just defending Rose, he's protecting her, you know,
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he's willing to put himself in the way of danger for even though he is himself in, you
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know, in some kind of danger.
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That's apparel.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, I really like that.
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I think that redeems the scene for me.
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Yeah, no, exactly.
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And of course, talking of the doctor when he leaps up, I mean, you know, a dressing
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gown striped in pajamas.
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I knew you could be the doctor, mate, because I had to take a double take.
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I was like, wait a minute.
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I'm sure I've seen that dressing gown somewhere.
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You know, it's not far off what I'm currently recording in, to be totally honest with you.
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You're actually going to a doctor who got kind of comic-con thing, aren't you?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Exactly.
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But I didn't expect the regeneration process to be so long, though.
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Well, it's different every regeneration.
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I know I was going to do some research on this episode, but I couldn't be bothered.
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I'm convinced this regeneration is supposed to be him letting out the bad wolf energy,
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the heart of the TARDIS, right?
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Because it's all the same color and it's never really done again.
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So I'm convinced that was supposed to be what it was, but then it just caught on.
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And that's now how every regeneration looks.
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But yeah, every regeneration is different.
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So don't overthink that too much.
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But yeah, I mean, he's fucking useless in this episode.
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Yeah.
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I mean, again, you know, it's just kind of what, you know, the point I made earlier in
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the episode that I think they've done that to try and focus on what we as the audience
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knew is normal and then slowly introduce everything else.
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And you know, as well, you don't it would be a bit of a boring episode if the doctor
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just was there straight away and just you saved the day instantly.
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You'd be a bit like, oh, well, that's a bit boring.
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You know, you want to get you know, you want a bit of kind of tension in the episode, you
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know, which I get.
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I get.
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Again, I just throughout season one, I just forgot this was made in 2004 and released
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in 2005.
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You know, I'm on the phone line.
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Oh, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Well, that's a core, you know, kind of a core memory there.
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You know, I'm on the phone line.
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Get off.
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It's just incredible.
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Insane.
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Yeah, absolutely hilarious.
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But again, this episode is really hilarious when the doctor does jump up and they're on
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the balcony.
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He's like, I need I need I need and then Jackie just goes off on paracetamol, pepto-fizmol,
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I'm a protein, this, this, this, this, this, this.
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He just goes, I need you to shut the fuck up.
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What are you talking about?
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I said, I've got a headache.
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Just shut up.
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I'm fucking cracking up.
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Absolute quality stuff.
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And that again, it's the familiarity of season one coming through.
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And then obviously, he's like, oh, there's an apple in my dressing gown.
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What's that doing here?
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He gets hungry in his sleep.
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Sometimes he gets hungry in his sleep.
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Oh, that's a that's a shagging smack.
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That is.
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Yeah.
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No, I liked it.
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I thought it was, you know, I thought I thought it was good.
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But yeah, no, that was it.
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And I just, again, what was really funny is when I watched it, I watched this a couple
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of weeks ago.
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And of course, they're there and they're making a very kind of heavy hit on part part of the
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theme is is that, you know, there is a there's a there's a space, you know, kind of a space
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probe that's gone out.
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And of course, at the time, literally that day, the India just launched and the landing
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something on like this on one of the polar caps on the moon and nobody's ever done this
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before.
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And I was like, huh, what if there is aliens out there?
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I bet I just flick the news on just make sure I'm not missing anything.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Exactly.
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So but yeah, no, it was, you know, again, it was just it was a nice start.
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OK, fair enough.
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You know, that's it.
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On that, though, I love that when when they do the fake BBC news reports and everything.
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So one of the news reporter says, and we've had absolute proof of alien life.
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I know they then go on to say, oh, it's a hoax.
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They try and sort of cover it up.
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I'm like, that's so BBC to jump immediately to know this is absolute proof that there's
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alien life.
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And then we've seen a video of a man in a mask laughing.
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It must be alien proof.
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So so gullible, so gullible.
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I mean, it's kind of again, it's it's it's a comment on, you know, everything there and
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the media jump into conclusions and, you know, everything like that, which I know we've touched
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on.
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And I think this was this was written by Russell T. Davis again, wasn't it?
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I don't remember.
462
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So again, it's it's one of those things that you just you know, I just feel like it's a
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comment on the news jumping to conclusions and everything.
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And that, you know, especially in to get back in 2005 because, you know, the news of the
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world hacking scandal was well, it wasn't covered yet.
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But again, it was it was something that was known that, you know, that they were they
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were hacking people's phones and personal possessions and all that dodgy stuff.
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And, you know, maybe Russell T. Davis said a little bit of a thing against the media
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and he was just like, right, I'm I'm going to put this line in there and just kind of,
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you know, just just to take the piss, really.
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But yeah, the question I've got, you may know the answer to this one.
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The the assistant in the to the PM, Alex, was he the guy in the office for Blom for
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the for the for the for the Slovene?
476
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That is a very good question.
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I don't think so.
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I didn't pick up on that if it was.
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I would have a quick look on that.
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You know, because I wasn't I wasn't sure if it was just like he he kind of, you know,
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kind of come up elsewhere and he'd, you know, he kind of made his way up to the PM's office
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or something like that.
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But I saw that was that's quite a nice little character.
484
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I guess so.
486
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Yeah.
487
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No, he's only in the one episode.
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Oh, he's just a different person.
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OK, well, that's that's fair enough.
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But yeah, so that was that.
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So then we're in that living room.
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I find that we are fascinating.
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I again, Harriet Jones is just she's fucking brilliant.
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That Sally girl is quite cute as well.
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I've got that in my notes.
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Not really mean anything.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, she was quite good.
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But I loved I loved it when someone I think Alex says are the president of America wants
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to take control.
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And she's like, absolutely not.
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We're certainly not turning this into a war.
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That's a good satire.
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That is that's a political commentary that I was going to say that then takes me on to
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my next note.
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Harriet Jones, fuck the Yanks.
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She just because she was introduced herself, didn't she?
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She's like, Harriet Jones, prime minister.
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And they're like, yeah, I know.
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I know.
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That's a brilliant joke.
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Yeah.
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Harriet Jones, fuck the Yanks.
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I know.
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Yeah.
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Oh, like, you know, I know.
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It's just like, well, who made her boss?
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You know, I just I get it.
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But like, you know, seeing as she had to have this authority for Torchwood, was it Torchwood?
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It was Torchwood, wasn't it?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But it seems she had to have this authority and everything like that.
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Like, surely she would just have to consult people first before just going, no, I'm going
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to do it.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I do
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