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S1 E11 - Boom Town

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Sep 14, 2023
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Alright, hello everybody and welcome back to another episode and the penultimate episode


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of this series of Doctor Who. I am Josh with me as always is my co-host Jack Phillips.


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How are you Jack?


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I'm all good thank you. I'm all good. That was a very full and posh introduction. I think


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that's probably the you know kind of the poshest one we've done so far but


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We're nailing it now. We're 12 episodes in plus a bonus episode here and there.


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Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good. We're getting there. Look at us nearly being professional.


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Nearly being professional and we're on like I said the penultimate episode of or the penultimate


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story I should say of this series. We're nearly in the end game. Not regarded as one of the best


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episodes of this series. Bradley Fuller before we joined outright said it's his least favourite


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of the series. I fucking loved it JP. What were your thoughts?


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It wasn't too bad actually. You know what it's a middle of the road thing. I don't think it's


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the worst episode there's been. I don't think it's the best one either but it's like all kind


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of episodes this season. I feel like it's got good individual points about it you know which is yeah


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so it's a middle of the road one for me. Not great, not bad you know is what it is.


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I think that's unfair. I think it's a genuinely good episode. It's a good character study. The


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characters in it are all very good. The plot okay there's not much of it but there doesn't need to


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be much of it. I was watching it and I was like oh shit it's nearly finished like it flew by for me.


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Yeah no that's true. That's true. This one did go quickly actually which is interesting.


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Yeah Rapid your favourite character Mickey returns. We've got Captain Jack getting a bit more


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development. We've got that strange lady from Harry Potter or not from Harry Potter but acts


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like the Harry Potter lady back in it. Yeah mate I think it's a quality. We get the rift is explored


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which comes back in future episodes. We get the big reveal of the series kind of but not really.


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Mate it's a huge episode so do you want to just dive in and we get started? Yeah let's dive in as we


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always do. Let's go chronological and we'll go from there. So it opens up of course in a kind of a


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meeting room kind of thing between I'm assuming what's some kind of scientist and the you know


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the head of the civilian. I've got to say straight away we're opening with a comment kind of a comment


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on a politician's promise. I promise you I'll look into it for you. It's just like you're not going to know are you?


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I could have tell if it was alien or true politician but yeah was this one written by


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Russell T Davies by the Jones? It was indeed yeah and it's very early evidence that Doctor Who has


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always been woke. I mean I wouldn't say it was woke it was just such a kind of on the nose comment.


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It was just straight away just like oh I promise. If that happened today it would be like oh look at


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Doctor Who it's gone all political. No it's always been political. This is the thing it's just so


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happens that you agreed with these politics you don't agree with the new ones that happen. That's


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why you're praying the toys out your pram. I have a question about this. Firstly this opening scene


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is a great reintroduction to the Saladin. It's genuinely quite scary and suspenseful.


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Agreed. Secondly where the hell is that man from? Like I googled him I've looked his IMDB up couldn't


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find him anywhere but I recognise him so much. It's either he's a famous actor and he's in something


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I've forgotten or he just looks like every politician slash office worker like every middle


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aged British man ever. There's something so familiar about his face I cannot man it. I think


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you're on your own on that one. I didn't recognise him. Really? Not at all didn't recognise him or


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anything like that. I just no I no idea. He must look like someone in my personal life I think.


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I couldn't find anything on him. What do you think he's he could be uncredited so it could be a


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famous actor that what's just uncredited for his. No I found his credit and I went through his


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filmography and everything on IMDB and I was like oh don't recognise him from that don't recognise


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from that. I think he's in an episode of Torchwood but I don't think he's like a big character in it


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so anyway that's just my little tangent there. Sorry about that. There we go guys in the comments


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or you know on the social medias if you do recognise him or know where he's from that we


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that Josh may know drop us you know just drop us a message or a comment or something and we'll see


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yes we'll see if it's something that you know I bet you bumped into the shop you know you bumped


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into him the shop sometime. I must have done but I'm not Welsh he's Welsh isn't he? Oh hello I'm Welsh.


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Oh yeah good point good point. Speaking of Welsh and how good my accent just was


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you've got Welsh heritage right? I do I do. Do you speak any Welsh? No none of my family do either


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none of my family do. The thing is is it's one of the things that kind of it's not really he's


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taught in schools but it's not really it depends where you go kind of in Wales. Yeah where my


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family are along the south coast it's not really something that's taught there they all speak


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English but just with funny accents and that's it. Yeah no it's a bit of a talk of strange noises


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though. When she kills the scientist warrior person yeah he's worrying all the time I swear


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that she makes a lot of velociraptor noise. Yeah I picked up on that that's definitely been lifted


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from Jurassic Park I'm sure. I've listened to it a couple of times and I swear that's a velociraptor noise.


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Yeah I picked up on that as well yeah but I'm glad yeah I'm glad it was more like monster noises and


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they focus less on the whole gas and farting and stuff that's quite downplayed in this episode


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which I really like. Agreed it happens once I think and that is literally the opening like kind


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of the opening scene I think. Yeah yeah and it works as a plot point to get them into the toilet


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so they can have a separate conversation but yeah I think genuinely they're less they're less silly


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in this. That woman whatever her name is Marga or Vlona she is brilliant like this is not a compliment


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in any means necessary but she looks like a Slovene even when she's not a Slovene you know


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what I mean like she's got that sort of like nasty like that scowl. Jesus you're scary. I was just


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saying the Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter. Yes exactly yeah. That is it you have that kind of


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that character that you just hate because they're such a good actor. I mean I never saw Game of


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Thrones but there was a there was another character I think his name is Jeffrey or something. Oh yeah


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King Jeffrey or something yeah yeah yeah. Again that was a character that was hated so badly but


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because the acting was so good and you just that's when you know you're a good actor is when you can


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you know you you can just receive all this hate from people just because of a character you played.


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Yeah totally agree. I mean you played it so well no no fully agree fully agree with that one. Yeah I


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love her I think she's very good in the right and would love to see her in more things as well she's


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genuinely very good. Yeah maybe she could do like a remake on Matilda or like Harry Potter or something


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like that. Oh yeah kind of play that evil step-mom kind of nurse that evil female authority figure


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you know I mean like a nurse or a mum or a step-mom or an auntie or something just that real kind of


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you know I mean like that kind of kid so sort of I don't know it's not like something that's like


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adult or anything like that but you know kind of the the teacher in charge or something like that.


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Yes yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm just describing Dolores Umbridge with it but yeah.


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Um yeah no so moving on of course we then go to um Mickey stepping off in Cardiff. I was


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about to... I was about to moan uh again I have to kind of when I'm writing notes I just write my


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first thoughts down and then kind of you know update them as the series goes along and I was


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about to moan so hard on why an Earthen Lad from London is ended up in Cardiff, why he's getting


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off a train in Cardiff but of course you find it further down the line that it's actually because


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that he's been in you know kind of invited there by Rose and everything like that but it just


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really hurts me that just this London kid who's probably never been out of London in his life just


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turned up in Cardiff and it was like yeah yeah yeah but no so you thought it was going to be like


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he just bumped into them? Genuinely right because this is the you know part of my note was again


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with the convenient travel you know they always just seem to land in the wrong place at the right


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time and it's just like it just wouldn't have surprised me if he just turned up in Cardiff and


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just went oh yeah I hope Cardiff's a nice place decided to go there for a week. Yeah well I've


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stumbled across the Tardis yeah exactly exactly that was the kind of writing I was getting but no


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he didn't they wrote it out which I was really happy with um poor Mickey though. Oh mate I've got


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a note here that just says how upset would you be if your girlfriend went traveling with two other


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men? I mean it's not even that I just you know it's just a handshake they do like a little


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handshake thing as well and I just like poor Mickey just has no idea what's going on you know you're


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watching the inside joke as well I just I feel like they always throughout this episode just


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took the piss out of Mickey. Yeah he's quiet. You know like kind of with a handshake and then like kind of he has that conversation with Rose doesn't he


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where where he's like he's outside the Tardis and you think oh yeah that's really upset and then like


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he just reveals that he's seeing someone else and Rose just gives him an absolute


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pasting for it and I'm like damn that's that's really mean that one he does everything is yeah


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I was gonna say the only thing I don't like is the um towards the end he just like flips his lip


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which I get you know you're upset but the way he went about it I guess maybe that's to do with his


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character but I just I feel like he went a little bit over the top there. I sort of I can totally


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get it like bearing in mind he's only like 20 odd as well maybe like 21 22 so he's young he's hot headed


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his girlfriend's just fucked off with two boys to go traveling has called them all the way to Cardiff


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just for a passport and then the bit that I loved is when like that thunder starts happening


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and he's like oh what was it and he looks around and Rose is just legging it just without like even


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a second thought from Mickey. I totally totally get why he's so upset. Well I did but I didn't because at the end of the day


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right so you I when I watched that I didn't see that she was running away from danger. She was running


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towards it right? Towards the danger exactly right Mickey knows exactly what's up with Rose right he


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knows that you know she's with some space wizard thing that he doesn't fully understand but he


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knows that they do magical things and they always try and save the universe and everything like


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so surely Mickey's under you know Mickey knows that so surely if you're sitting there and you see her


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running away from you you'd go that's because she's going to try and save the world. I think you'd


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still be pissed off like it only takes 10 seconds to say wait here I'm going to save the world or


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imagine you're a firefighter or you're a policeman or something like that and you're sat down for


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you know kind of some kind of dinner with your ex-girlfriend or something like that


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and then you just hear a robbery or a fire around the corner you're going to sit there and explain


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to them go like I'm really sorry I'd love to catch you up with you by the way but I've got you gone.


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I guess I guess so but you'd still be pissed off in that situation like regardless of whether she


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did the right thing. Of course you're annoying. Oh no way man. Right if you're if you're annoyed


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that someone is leaving you to go save someone else quite literally save lives you gotta look


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you gotta look at yourself and go I'm a cunt. No I'm sorry if they don't excuse themselves properly


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I'm allowed to be annoyed. No no not at all. There's a certain time and place here I'm not saying you


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just leave every meal you just go you just lay it down the road you know oh what's that job


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that's actually a standard exit in like you know the Europe but no I'm not saying you do that but


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like where there's a certain and there's a good reason for it as well. I don't know I don't know


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I would be I agree I'm on I'm hashtag team Mickey here. Also don't forget the last time we saw him


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he'd been accused of murdering Rose like he's still got that on his conscience probably. Well


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that's true. Can't get a girlfriend can't fit into social performance all that stuff. No no I get that and that's what I'm saying I feel like this


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episode he gets a snap in but it's just the end part just doesn't I don't know it don't sit well with me.


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Interesting I agree to disagree on that one. Yeah yeah there we go there we go. I think he's totally just having a lot of sympathy for him.


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Yeah no I feel sympathy for him for sure you know it's uh but um oh I said the background on the TARDIS


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skin we get a little bit of an insight on the on the the skin around the TARDIS. Oh yeah the skin


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fucking hell you're such a forniter. What do you mean skin skin is skin. The the the chameleon


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circuit yeah the chameleon yeah the chameleon circuit um very interesting it just explains why the TARDIS


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is a 1960s or 70s police box. Yeah 60s police box I think yeah makes sense I think that's been I think


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that's like old law coming in as well that's not something that he made up that has always been


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the excuse for having it they didn't really touch on it but Mickey goes like


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uh yeah but it's still a police box in the middle of the street like of course people are gonna notice


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it and the doctor's just like oh well you just walked past it come back. Fine it's later explained


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in another series that the chameleon circuit one it like disguises it it changed what it uh changes


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what it looks like but also it has a subconscious thing where it purposely makes it not stand out


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like no matter what it's disguised as it will never stand out so it's not invisible but it's like


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it's always there but you don't notice it's there so it's like the example I thought as it was


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happening was there's a chair in the TARDIS consult room and I always forget that that chair is there


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but it's in every single shop I'm like okay so that's what the chameleon circuit does it just


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puts it at the back so you can't focus on it you can't have your attention on it. Yeah no agreed I


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quite like it um I mean he says about you know kind of before it got broke it would have appeared


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as a statue if you were in the roman times or something like that and I quite like it but the


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the I mean looking from from what I'm looking at because I've not had that experience the whole


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you know kind of subconscious thing although we it was proven that the TARDIS is a kind of living


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thing towards the end of the episode. We'll get to that. We'll touch to that one as well um but the I mean the funny thing is


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is you know the doctor just says oh people who just walk past it and leave it alone I'll tell you what


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right if that was to land in the middle of south and high street nowadays right that thing would be


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gone or burnt out or there'd be some I don't know what happening in there you know. Yes exactly


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exactly well it does get graffiti done in one of the earlier episodes right in uh it does it does


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it does and again we will get to that one we will absolutely get to that yeah we will get there. All


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right so Captain Jack, Dr Rose and even Mickey I love the bit where they're just fucking about


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having the banter they're in that pier side cafe just telling stories and laughing such good


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camaraderie right and it's all I thought go on yeah I thought we were doing this um kind of chronologically


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that's the next bit isn't it no I thought they went to the um I thought they go to the uh the little um


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conference thing with the politicians you know they go for the conference thing where she's showing


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off the uh the plans and everything like that and the journey oh right okay sorry sorry yeah yeah


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because there was a big point in there that I just completely got overlooked and I still don't know why


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right so of course they're in this thing and she's explaining that they're building this big old


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nuclear power plant in Cardiff and you know and everything like that and I mean just the Welsh


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accent salon just remind me of Gavin and Stacey it's just every time I hear a Welsh accent I'm like


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oh Gavin I've got family little Welsh and you know you just think of Gavin and Stacey instead


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yeah of course yeah but I mean first of all the I mean just where the journalist is just going


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but what about these people that died and she's just like well they're French oh wow that is


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brilliant yeah I've got a note they slipped on a patch uh they sent on an icy patch they were


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decapitated it was a very icy patch yeah brilliant I love that right she literally admits to killing


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a man and she's still at the office he's like you run over him oh okay she killed a man admitted it


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and she's still in the office I mean but mate mate like we're laughing president Trump today


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has been charged with more criminal offenses and is still running for president of the United


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States I mean as if it would make a difference murder is kind of the one of the top things you


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can do really isn't it he's being accused of organizing a riot on the White House yeah but


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that's just an angry gathering of people you know literally no no no I think this at the time was


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quite controversial and now it's again it's become our present like this is happening this is happening


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our prime minister won't admit how much oh sorry Boris Johnson our former prime minister has not


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admitted how many fucking kids he's got I was just about to ask the question how many politicians


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current serving politicians we've got do you reckon we've killed someone exactly how many of


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them are bloody slavine that's what we should be asking I mean look there is a pretty big kind of


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theory that goes around on the internet that they're all a bunch of lizard people which I wonder if


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it came from this episode really but no it's not that far-fetched at all but yeah I like yeah of


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course of course she's killed someone and she's still in power yeah no it's a show it just really


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made me laugh again and the commentary on the politicians you know the politicians behaving


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badly she was just like yeah but you run him over and I was like oh dear but no it's uh yes and it


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was an interesting one and of course you get that horrible bit of tension where she's kind of not


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interested and then suddenly she's like oh I'm interested now and then you and then and then she


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does that thing where she's like oh all the girls together now to the toilet which is challenging


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by the way I don't know why they do it just company or something like that you don't as a guy


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you don't really go to the toilet together you just just go off one at a time and come back the girls


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are just like yeah we're going for a trip to the toilet and that's it I know I don't get it at all


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it's so they can all do their makeup and have pillow fights presumably that's true that's


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there because that's what you're doing that really but uh yeah um but the um well the unanswered


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question sorry I still can't work out is why because because of course she goes into the toilet


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and then she kind of goes into a normal form and everything like that she's about to kill the


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journalist yeah and then she doesn't she didn't just suddenly turn sad yeah why because the


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journalist starts talking about her boyfriend and she's having a baby and basically family and


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you know the last time we saw Margaret her family was being blown up yeah but she killed a scientist


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like you know 10 minutes ago in the episode yeah but the scientist wasn't mentioning his family


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he didn't mention it he didn't mention it and the doctor does go on I think when they're sat at


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the table as well he says something like every now and then just to make yourself feel better


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you'll let someone live and that's how you live with yourself does because yeah because she says


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to me oh she says to him when they're eating dinner she goes oh well the other day I left the


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journalist alone and everything like that but it doesn't make sense why she just I you know she's


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there just to eat people it doesn't make sense why she wouldn't eat the journalist now I can see it


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I can see it okay it's just that whole family relationship she's just lost her entire family


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now it's just a brief lapse in judgment that lets her justify what she's doing to herself yeah I get


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that I don't know um the thing I do love about the Sabina I can't remember if I mentioned this last


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time that we saw them but I do love the sideways eye like kind of the uh side side yes you did yeah


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with the lizard I just it's such a cool it's just so cool it's great character design I love it it's


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just it is a good costume to be fair isn't it yeah and when she's there and she's looking sad and you


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just see the eyes just a lot like blinking it's just goes sideways it's so cool I love it I just


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love it it is it is just quickly I had a dream the other night it's literally just come back to me


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it's not my notes or anything I had a dream the other night that I was being chased by a Slythene


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in a bikini oh that's an interesting one yeah really fucking trippy it's just gonna be a smash


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of a pass question the Slythene in a bikini smash of a pass give it a go why not yeah I mean like


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you know clap out your cheeks be like actor Jack it's in the name you know that's it what Jack and


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the children would look like oh god actually that's answered there's a spin-off called the


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Sarah Jane adventures and there's a baby Slythene in it oh no oh no right anyway yeah I think that's


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a good scene I think that's a good scene in the bathroom um yeah yeah again I think the Slythene's


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are genuinely quite scary well I think the Slythene is genuinely quite scary in this episode


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yeah no agree agree it's a lot scary when there's I know that's the thing as well I think it's a lot


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scary when there's just one agreed you know they're not gonna kill off just that one whereas when


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there's loads of them that you kind of you almost feel like the writers could just go that one dies


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now that one dies and now they all die whereas when there's one they're not just just gonna kill off


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the one straight away no I quite like that I quite like that um I'm trying to think of some examples


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of that Dalek yeah but you haven't seen a multi Dalek episode yet well I have towards the end in


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the next week so the first one that comes to mind is Alien but then Alien 2 is arguably a better


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film yeah I prefer Alien 2 but then I think that's probably because just Ripley just becomes I don't


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know she just becomes better yeah yeah just like the end of the first uh film she's like a badass


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and you're like wow this is cool and then somehow they managed to get her even more badass like


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they put it this way right they put her in a kind of a car thing with a bunch of hardcore marines


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who were supposed to be the like even harder than she is and she was still the hardest person in


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that car yeah and you're just like damn that's a that's a cool way to be but anyway that's fine


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to buy back to breakfast or lunch or whatever you're you know kind of you you would whatever


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you're eating here right I love when writers do this right where they just cut in to just the the


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end of the punchline of a joke and then the characters laugh yeah I like it when it's done


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well I thought that was done well no I agree with you but sometimes it's done pretty shit like I


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just watched flash again last night and uh it's that whole sort of you know that you try if you


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try too hard to be like your characters in something have to feel like they exist when you're not


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looking at them and that's a really that's like the easiest way of doing it is to cut in on them


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doing something else so you're reminded that they do have a life but sometimes it can be done so


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cheesy and so in your face and unbelievable um so yeah it's a testament to the writer but also the


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actors that this works because jack is talking absolute nonsense about being naked and chased by


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aliens and it doesn't make any sense and yet you believe it yeah no exactly that's it and I just


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really like that you've hit it spot on there in the fact that it just does build that bit of


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character development you you kind of you're almost there to believe that these characters have a life


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outside of the snapshot that what we see you know you kind of you almost feel like you've just


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moved in and you're just looking there and then it's not just action and then go it's you're


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moving in on real lives and exactly and that's what I really like yeah and it happens quite a


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lot this episode you've obviously got jack's story nicky talks about trisha delaney and he's been


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dating elsewhere rose is saying oh we did this we walked under these 50 foot waves and this happened


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that happened like I think this is it is quite a boring episode in terms of things actually


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happening but for developing the characters it's probably one of the most important episodes in


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this series to be fair like no I think like I genuinely believe in team tardis at this point


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jack rose and the doctor they are now bearing in mind we've only had jack for one episode and


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he was technically I guess kind of the antagonist he certainly wasn't part of the team do you know


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what I mean so yeah but now again I've seen the history of this show as well but I believe they've


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been traveling for months and months and years and years with each other do you know what I mean and


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it's only been not even an episode and that was proven as well because when a bit further down


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the line when rose is talking about uh you know talking about the adventures in that to micky


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she she mentions some kind of ice-covered planet or something that froze it was a yeah you know


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and she was a hundred foot ways and I think now we haven't seen that of course exactly yeah and


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again it's a brilliant bit of writing to show that these characters have actually done other things


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apart from what we've seen which helps us believe that they you know it can kind of it's a good way


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to explain between episodes why characters have suddenly got a lot closer together yeah no I think


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it totally totally totally works and it's done excellently in this episode so yeah I absolutely


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love that scene of them all uh getting lunch the only thing that pisses me off about it is the


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doctor gets up snatches that old welshman's news and he says nothing this welshman just lets it


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happen maybe that was just the thing like back in 2005 people in carlisle were really really really


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nice people and they just thought they were just oh yeah that's it I mean I'm not supposed to be


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typically Larry I don't know I mean put it this way if it had done it in London you'd have ended


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up with like a kind of a three inch stab wound through your chest or something you know if that


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had happened in London it would have been a regeneration episode


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exactly you know they're in the doctor who movie um the seventh yeah there's a movie back in the


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back in the day the seven so it starts off with the seventh doctor and then it's the eighth doctor's


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movie but the way he regenerates is the seventh doctor literally this is all in the space like


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30 seconds so movie opens seventh doctors in the tardis lands it in new york opens the door


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gets shot down by a new york gang and then that's it regenerates into the next doctor and he's never


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heard of again like that's it that's not even a spoof that's it genuinely happens oh my god


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it's like the seventh doctor was shot by a gang member yeah just because he opened the door in


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the wrong neighborhood look you've got a youtube it once we finish this just youtube it it's the


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most ridiculous thing in the world oh you gotta watch that that's that's going on the watch thing


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tonight that's it that's incredible they then go to margaret's office and it's a bit cartoony hilarity


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in the shoes i i think it's quite funny i think it works i well i was gonna say there's a bit i


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again that i quite like that always just seems to be like a normal trope kind of thing and you see


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it coming a mile off but they all pile into the main hall like kind of the main hallway bit


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and my jack's like you know captain jack's like right we're gonna do this you go here you go there


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you go here and then the doctor just turns around he's like i'm the one in charge he's oh sorry


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what's what's the plan great plan like he said i just you know you you see it coming a mile but


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i just love it i just it's just such a it is good yeah it is i was gonna say it's a thing that we


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saw what the doctor did last um well not last episode technically episode um the episode before


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that in the fact that he trusts other people's judgment he wants to listen to other people who


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have said rather than just going no no no no i'm doing the plan let's do this instead he knows that


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captain jack is trying and tested in these tactics and everything like that so why wouldn't you you


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know being part part of being a leader is delegation and listening so why wouldn't you listen to say


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and i really like that but i think he's he's quite a clever clever thing to be doing yeah it's a good


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little bit to be fair i also think it probably wasn't a cliche back then as well like the one


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that's been to mine is like in the avengers where i think like captain america orders like a policeman


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around then he's like why should we trust you he knocks out a couple of those uh jatari or whatever


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it is and then the cap they're like the officer just repeats the orders exactly as cap said it


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and so like i do think it's become a cliche but this was like this was


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fucking hell like i don't know seven years before that yeah avengers was 20 oh that's a good question


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yeah 2012 i want to say this was 2005 so yeah seven years before that yeah no i liked it i


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liked it and the other one i liked as well is just you know the civil servant is there just


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to be kind of a meat shield really you know yeah you just hear the cup like drop and then he just


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comes out and he's just like she's got it she just up to her you know he's just he's putting every


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excuse under the book and the doctor's just like she's climbing out the window isn't she yeah but


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then i love that he sort of he fucks off for a while the doctor starts his chase and then out of


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nowhere he just comes back as they're on the balcony and starts having a tussle with the


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doctor i'm like i haven't seen it for a while it's like is the doctor going to throw him off this


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balcony like like propagate i was like is the doctor gonna murder this guy they can only be one


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exactly so yeah so then they do the little teleport thing and they're running around i do right i


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haven't noticed this before but when mickey catches up to them all he checks his pulse and he looks at


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his watch like he's taking his heart rate monitor i was like this is this is a funny little bit like


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mickey is brilliant in this episode by the way i know he touched on it earlier he's genuinely very


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good yes yeah no exactly exactly and he i think he's the first one to kind of fall over something


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because all of them apart the doctor falls over something in the way and he just like falls through


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like a cleaning bin or something you just see it coming out i'm just like but it does happen i mean


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you look at it and you think oh there's no way that would happen but it does you know you kind


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of you're running as fast as you possibly can yeah exactly looking at in front of you you know and


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that's it but uh yeah no that did make me chuckle that was uh that that was quite funny um but yeah


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no it's quite interesting that the yes the the doctor screwdriver kind of i don't know counteracts


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the teleport maybe well yeah i thought that that i was reading up the notes it's the exact same


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thing that he does to cassandra back in uh episode two that is just the thing that the that the


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screwdriver can do and rose says yeah he's good with he's good with teleport so fair enough yeah


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they've they've established that i'm all for it yeah no interesting is an interesting thing um i


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think that she gives up um blom gives up her plan really easy i think yeah but i didn't go i thought


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the same thing but then she's double bluffing no she's double bluffing yeah that's that's it but


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that has surely got her employer that she knew that the doctor was going to turn up no so i think she


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explains later on in the episode she was like my plan was going to work however my contingency was


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if anybody does come and work this plan out they will have the technology that all i need to do is


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get them to strap it into there so that's why she starts boasting about how cool it is so yes no


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you're right because then she says about i hit the jackpot or something like that yeah exactly so i


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think actually that's fine like she's she's letting it off she's giving away her plan because she knows


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she's got that back up as soon as the doctor shows up yeah no that's that's it no okay yeah


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now that makes sense yeah so it was kind of a plan b but plan b became plan a because of the doctor and


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the tiniest turned up exactly you know that makes sense um i i did put a thing though they're just


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making up words now surely when they're like the captain jackson's like it's this and i'm like i'm


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sitting there and i was going to try and write it down and i just i took a minute and i was like


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i've got no idea how i've got no idea how i'm going to try and remember how to pronounce that


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so i was just like no i'm going to leave that well alone the scene was hard enough as it was


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and that was just a lot shorter of a word so i was like but go on have a go at saying the planet name


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uh it was rexacorium something wasn't it oh it's so close go on go on go on i i don't uh


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rexacorium something you know what the worst thing is i can see rosen the doctor walking out


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of the door trying to say it i just can't remember what that's a core that's a core of


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falapatoria that's it yeah i hate that yeah no but that but that's it i was just like wow that's


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you know that's incredible but okay i can see the scene now where the doctor goes first through the


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door and then rose goes after and then she gets it and they're just like really happy about it and i'm


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like i feel that uh you know i feel that yeah but um yeah interesting contingency plan anyway


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