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S2 E1 - New Earth

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Sep 18, 2023
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Find the links below to listen to series 1 episode 3 of Doctor Who, The Unquiet Dead. Or see the transcript underneath.

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Alright, hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Doc Who Pod. I am Josh


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and with me as always is my co-host JP. How are you JP?


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I'm all good thank you. All good.


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Very good and I'm good as well. Thanks for asking. And this week we have a special guest.


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We're not quite calling him a co-host yet because we don't know if he's ever going to


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be on again. Bradley Fuller.


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We are finally joining. Pleased to finally be here. Sorry it took so long.


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Do you think you're going to be a permanent guest? Sebi permanent guest?


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Yeah we'll see how it goes.


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The reason we have to get him on this week, we were getting calls from the police and


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they were like look we just keep hearing this guy called Bradley turn up in the episode


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but nobody's ever heard of him. So we just decided that.


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Well I am the face behind the TikTok account that is so good at the moment. Getting all


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the likes, all the followers and I was smashing it so you know I had to come on didn't I?


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It's so good at the moment there hasn't been a post yet. There hasn't been a post for two


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weeks now is it?


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Is it that long are you timing it?


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I think it's about two weeks. I go on and check on a daily basis.


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I've had to catch up on a few episodes so yeah I'm a bit behind but you've got all the


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season one's catch up.


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I hope.


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You've just looked. I've just had a notification that you're looking on the TikTok.


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26th of August was the last post. You're really letting the team down at the minute.


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Yeah it will come back up to speed don't you worry.


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But anyway as me and Jack have discussed on previous episodes the whole point of this


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was it was going to be the three of us from the start and then Brad chickened out and


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wanted us to spin the wheels for the first series and see if he's got any legs or anything.


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Now he's seen that we've become pretty famous. He wants to board this fame train and here


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he is.


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So this week we are talking about New Earth. The first episode in series two. First David


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Tennant episode. The episode in which I've written the least notes I think. Pretty much


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my only note in this is how fucking fit is Billy Piper in this one.


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Oh yeah. I mean look if you'd have watched it back in you know how old were we in 2006


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was this now when it came out was it 2006.


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Yeah like eight years old.


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Yeah eight years old. I mean that's just every kid's dream isn't it really. You know you


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kind of border on your first crush kind of thing.


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Yeah so I found out whilst doing research that she actually wore a push-up bra for the


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scenes where she was Cassandra and then took it off for the scenes that she was Rose.


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Really.


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Yeah yeah. Fact yeah.


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Interesting.


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Well I say fact it was on the trivia section of IMDB.


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Fair enough there we go. Well that's a gentle introduction to the thing. I do agree with


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you about you know kind of the past couple of episodes not the later episodes of season


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one. You know I had kind of reamed the notes on this one but I've kind of gone back to


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not really taken a lot of notes for this episode. It was okay but yeah no very interesting.


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I feel like we need some very jazzy Northseas music though to introduce this podcast because


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straight away off the bat it was just in with some jazzy like kind of sci-fi intro music


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while they were introducing you know well kind of while Rose and the Doctor were saying


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goodbye to Jackie and Mickey and it just again it just took me back. It's just like that


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kind of stereotype like kind of stereotypical intro music for sci-fi. I don't think they


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really did in season one so it's quite interesting to hear that.


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Yeah there's been a bit of a change for this series right. I had never realised before


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but I wonder if you had. The TARDIS is in a different place to where it's left at the


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end of Christmas Invasion and apparently the internet is littered with theories that Rose


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and the Doctor have already been on a few adventures before they do this one.


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What do you mean it's in a different place? What one? Where they're parked at? At the


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end of the last one? Yeah at the end of Christmas Invasion it's in a place and then at the start


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of this episode it's in a different place and apparently there are some stories and


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there is I remember this there was a on the Doctor Who website there used to be games


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did you ever play them Brad? Oh yeah of course I did the Dalek one was a classic. The Dalek


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one was sick yeah but there was also one called like Attack of the Grask or Grask or something


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do you remember that? Oh that's the thing from Sarah Jane Adventures yeah. Yeah so apparently


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that takes place in between Christmas Invasion and this episode. Oh I do remember that actually


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to be fair. It was like a video thing right like it was actually like they'd filmed something


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yeah wasn't it like in the TARDIS? Something like that yeah. You watched the screen in


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the TARDIS and you had to do like tasks and stuff. Yes yes yes yes yes it was fucked.


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Yeah yeah. How do I remember that? So yeah anyway JP presumably you've got no idea what


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this is. Well I mean I know a video game visitor because I know what a Dalek is now but the


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one thing I'm thinking though is I mean say you've got a car for example and you leave


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your car I don't know around your mates or down the road or something like that would


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it not be easier to just park the car especially if like because Rose obviously goes in with


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a big old backpack with loads of stuff and everything like that isn't Doctor just not


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being a nice person just parking closer? Yeah that comes up in a future episode he helps


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someone moving by landing the TARDIS on or the luggage and then it just gets like absorbed


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by the TARDIS and then it moves but anyway do you want to start running through your


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notes JP? Right so next though talking about the bag and Rose and everything of course


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we get some very sombre goodbyes between the Doctor Rose, Mickey and Jackie and of course


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what's interesting yeah I'll put a note that Rose actually has a bag she never took any


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possessions with her you know in the TARDIS at all so I know what you're saying about


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you know kind of when we did the Christmas special they're kind of redoing Rose's character


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off and everything like that so it looks like to me now she's a bit more dedicated she's


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yeah a bit more she's got a little bit more planning now you know it's kind of she's there


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for the long term she's in you know kind of you know she's thinking in the future to be


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said and another thing I noticed as well she gave Mickey a big old kiss on the lips. Yeah


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I've got that note as well that was strange of it yeah I mean what is strange and it's


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not strange because you know say we were trying to work out last season was you know what


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is the relationship between Rose and Mickey, Rose and the Doctor, Rose and Captain Jack


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and everything like that and I just I just don't know I still don't know we're you know


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a season in now and I've got no idea because at the end of you know I mean in the Christmas


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in the Christmas special they were very flirty and it was almost like okay they're going


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for more a romantic relationship between Rose and the Doctor but now it's kind of back to


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Mickey I don't know it's very weird I'd love to know actually what the writers what kind


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of the direction that they wanted to take you know kind of the relationship between


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the characters. Well you only have to wait a few episodes to find out really did you


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not think they were becoming a lot more romantic in this episode of the Doctor and Rose? I


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wouldn't have said so actually no. Are you mad that bit when they're sitting on the grass


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and they're on top of a top of his coat and she's like oh this is where we had our first


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date and they're holding hands and they have a snog and I don't know because then I just


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I was still taken from the you know I saw you know kind of when she left Mickey I was


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then under the impression that actually she's more serious with Mickey so I was like I'm


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looking at the Doctor and the Rose just being a friend you know kind of it's just two friends


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sitting on a coat in the grass looking at the very very shittily animated flying cars but


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um no I thought for sure they were flirting more this episode. Brad do you obviously know


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what happens? Did you not think they were romantic in this episode? I'd agree with you to be fair


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I mean the thing I want to know is what happened to Trish Delaney because she never gets mentioned


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again after Mickey runs off with her. Yeah and it kind of feels like at that point that Rose and


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Mickey are sort of ended or he comes back and helps her in the finale of the last series but


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yeah it was I felt like in this episode uh like you said like he was laying on the grass and


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although just skipping ahead a bit uh when she is taken over by Cassandra and uh she kisses him


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you know he sort of he seems like pretty happy about that he's not like against it


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so it does feel like they are getting closer. I reckon so yeah and that's one of the best lines


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in the episode as well still got it. Still got it. Yeah no I mean that's true no I do again there


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was a few I don't know it just to me it just seems a bit more of a flirtatious relationship rather


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than a kind of a sticker tag on it in the series kind of thing but I don't know we're just I think


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that the whole thing with Mickey you know right at the start there I just kind of just put me in the


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mindset that was like okay it's just uh as I said some kind of like flirtatious relationship between


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Rose and the Doctor and you know it's obvious that the Doctor cares about Rose because you see back


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and forward like when Cassandra starts taking you know kind of taking over Rose's body and everything


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it's Rose he's caring about Rose he's concerned about Rose you know not when they affected her


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there he's like make sure you don't let them touch you you know you you need to keep Rose


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alive so I don't know it's very I think the further I'm watching season two I'm hoping I


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should have a better idea of kind of what it is but um but it seems like you've got your mindset


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already so I feel like I feel like the same that I'm due to see that he's gonna change the wind a


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bit well if he doesn't want to shag her after this episode there's something wrong with him


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is what I'm trying to get at yeah I mean I kind of briefly mentioned it there the uh animation was


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a bit shit what in terms of what well there's there was two instances I was just like Jesus


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that's not hold up the flying cars was definitely one the flying cars just didn't look that that


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looked like this is 2006 though yeah and tv yeah but I mean like you you know kind of the cgi I


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suppose it was cgi yeah the cgi in season one actually I thought held up I was like okay it


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doesn't look too bad but I don't know the the flying cars just didn't look quite there and


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there's a there's a death where um one of the cats for like the cat lady things falls down the


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yeah and it was just like oh my god that's just shit we'll get to that scene yeah yeah we'll


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get to that scene but um but yeah okay so yeah cgi a little bit bad but the what did you think


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of like the practical uh you know diseased makeup and the cats are fucking brilliant that's good


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oh yeah don't make that yeah the actual the actual practical effects you know the costumes the makeup


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um it's still top color yeah it's still top quality I to me I think it holds up now you know you it


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wouldn't look out of place if it was put on tv now it wouldn't look out of place um yeah which


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is just the testament to you know kind of the work that's done by the by the uh by the artists


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I did like that they had all the nurses in the background wearing veils just for no reason then


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we don't have to put makeup on them yeah no exactly that that's that you know I thought


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that straight away as well as okay yeah that's but again that's a smart business decision rather


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than you know trying to blow your budget on trying to get everybody looking like that you know you


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make a decision and again you know it doesn't look out of place all right you have to pretend


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that they can see through the veils but yeah you know it's it's a smart move by the you know by the


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writing team but um uh yeah it's all good smart move the uh of course we get that little robot


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bug uh spider bug thing come up when uh rosen the doctor just chilling on the grass and then


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straight away I just put in brackets of cassandra appearance because the last time we saw those


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robot folks was in um end of the world the name is end of the world that's the end of the world


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when cassandra made her last appearance and so did the face of bow and everything like that


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and of course it was it was then cassandra you hear cassandra's voice said oh i need to see her


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face and eat her face so bloody hell right it's quite a cool comeback uh like kind of a cool little


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cool way i think yeah i think she's quite a good villain to be fair yeah actually she's i just it's


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one of those things isn't it again you can tell it's a russell t davis episode because it's


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definitely a comment on you know kind of the appearance and kind of people changing their


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appearances because they think that they're not you know kind of they don't feel comfortable in


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their own bodies and they feel like they need work done and you know it's obviously a comment to that


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but i do think she's a good villain she's very um what's the word i'm looking for manipulative i


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think maybe okay in what sense i don't know she's just she does everything for personal gain like


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in terms of that she wants you know like she she wanted a new body so she trapped rose down there


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and then she was just like right now i want money now and then she's saying to the cat ladies that


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you know like give me this money otherwise i'm gonna send the whole you know i'm gonna gonna


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send everything to the news and everything like that like and it's because she's doing everything


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for personal gain i think the kind of the ending of the episode actually kind of closes off her


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arc and the fact that she actually did something for good um which i quite liked i thought was good


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okay let's talk about that then do you feel her redemptive arc was earned i wouldn't say it was


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earned because she didn't really do anything to uh kind of help i mean the only reason she jumped


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down the elevator shaft was because the infected were coming after and that was the only option


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she had because they shut the door behind so i wouldn't say it was really earned but then she


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realized the kind of not the error of her ways because again there was nothing really to do


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with her it was just that she realized that the infected were actually people and you know she


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was being a bit mean but it was just nice to see that actually she had a kind of a bit of a


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realization and you know it kind of it was what i really liked about the ending though was it kind


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of closed a loop because right at the start of the episode she says i've only been called beautiful


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once because the the video is playing in the background when rose first goes down yeah and


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that's the video of course like from from where rose the doctor and her turn up at the end and


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she said oh i really i wish i could go back to you because it was the only time someone ever called


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me beautiful yeah yeah and then it was her calling herself it was her calling herself so beautiful


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which i thought was quite quite sweet it was quite sweet uh sweet ended but um did you think it was


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well earned or i mean if i'm honest as as cassandra is a villain i don't think she's really all that


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i don't really see the point of her because yeah all right she's the last human and you know she


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i get in in the end of the world like she actually had something she was going for but in this episode


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i don't really see what her aim was and that's another thing i felt about this episode and we'll


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come on to that probably i don't really feel like she was actually the the villain when you actually


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think about the episode what causes the danger for the doctor and rose is the infections and the cats


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who have caused all of this so i see the cats and that as the actual main villain and at the end of it


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kind of ends up helping cassandra yeah so i got the impression that cassandra found out there was


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something going on they were doing dodgy experiments she was like right i'm gonna basically blow the


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whistle or get them to pay me off and that's how i'm gonna pay my money but you brought up a good


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point there the cats are the villains are they though or are they working in the greater good


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of humanity i feel like that's one that we should cover later in the uh in the podcast because


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all right we'll build up to it i got some notes i got some notes on that later in the episode


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because yeah it's it's an interesting one it's an interesting one um new new york is an interesting


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one as well oh here we go the future armor fan comes out the future yeah i love that i just thought


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that's brilliant but um i just made me chuckle he just goes oh it's new new york and oh well


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technically it's new new new new new new new 15 new york new new new new new new new new new new york


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you're such someone counted back yeah someone counted back and let us know in the comments


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did he actually make the 15 but no i quite like that i think that's that's pretty uh you know


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made me chuckle anyway um also made me chuckle as well there's two things that they do and kind of


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smart editing which really really made me laugh um because while cassandra's looking at rosen the


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doctor through the the spider robot thing she says about get get revenge on that little bit and then


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they then they cut and of course the doctor goes a little bit of adult humor you know kind of


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kids may not recognize it but of course adults will kind of take a double take and think oh


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to the minute can i be showing the kid this but um yeah yeah exactly racy episode yeah no i thought


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was quite funny um i mean what's up with a cat ladies though that's a random one how do you think


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that came about do you think do you think we've shagged a cat and that's how that's happened yeah


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i mean well the thing is because they called the sisters a plain student yeah which is a very kind


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of you know they've obviously taken inspiration from like you know people are flying sliding gal


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and you know kind of sisters in waltz and everything like that but she let me oh dear


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oh actually yeah it's been a kind of but um yeah i just i don't know it's very very weird like it's


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just a cat lady i mean as i said i thought that was a hentai and because you know you see cat


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ladies all over the internet but yeah it's just very weird i mean maybe maybe that was a start of


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a of an obsession for a generation right there just cat ladies in nonsu all right well here's


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a question for you then brad uh would you uh probably not no you don't want some feline action


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yeah so of course the doctor and bros go into the hospital and the doctor's quite obsessed with


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having a gift shop there like kind of i'm glad you mentioned that it's a bit of a random one i


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mean it's a fair point you know i was in i was in uh in a hospital yesterday and uh you know kind


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of trying to find a fucking shop to get something to eat it's just impossible like you know you need


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a good shop yeah every hospital has a good shop that becomes a running joke i think right brad


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that's it yeah yeah we don't want to jump too far ahead but um you think about first episode of the


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next series do you remember oh yeah yeah yeah can't talk about that i want to know all right well


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we could briefly talk about it then so that leads on to sort of the reveal of the face of bow um so


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we're in the face of bow sequel which then becomes a trilogy because he obviously has his secret that


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he's not going to tell the doctor so jp i was obviously due to ask you did you spot the easter


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egg in this episode um it's not in this episode it's not because there's no angels in it i'm


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convinced i'm on it i'm on the angel hype train that's it that's that's me i'm feeling the angel


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you'll be pleased to know it's laid the easter egg for season three so you need to now be on


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the lookout for season two and season three interesting before we go talking about the face


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of bow though and he's kind of trilogy there is something i actually wanted to point out because


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of course they go in the elevators and that's when they get separated two things one that's a bit of


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a dick move with the disinfectant i mean just imagine that you just there i love you zone a


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bit of paper or something well do you again funny note whilst i was doing my research david tenant


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filmed that first on a day billy piper wasn't there then they didn't tell billy piper what the


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disinfectant was going to be so her reaction while she's getting is absolute genuine genuine


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yeah i thought i thought that because it did look like a genuine unscripted reaction which is quite


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funny really i think they edited around all the swear words yeah and i was going to say yeah they


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probably would have been a few swear words if it had been you know genuine reaction um but the other


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thing i really liked about um it just kind of just a little thing that kind of developed rose's


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character in here she says thank you to the elevator she's british well i just think it's a


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nice thing to do in it you know you kind of she doesn't need to say thank you like it's like us


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going to alexa you know you kind of say alexa play music and then it starts playing music and


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go thank you you don't mean i always say my pleasing thank you to alexa do you yeah not always


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but most of the time let look right okay guys let us know in the comments or edit yeah on instagram


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twitter anything like that let us know do you say thank you please yeah please do you say please


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and thank you to an alexa because i'm genuine i want to know because i didn't think it was


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the thing people did but basically do you have manners or not no no no because you're talking to


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you're just well in fairness you are talking to a person in amazon but you know anyway i think what


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builds more to her character is that she picks up that lead pipe as soon as she gets out of the


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lift like she knows she's at the point where she knows yeah she doesn't do anything with it yeah i


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mean if you're going down into a dark dingy alleyway and some creepy guy is calling your name you're


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gonna grab something yeah but she doesn't know that she thinks she's on ward 26 with the doctor


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she didn't know she's going down up left right she thinks this guy probably just chauffeured the


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doctor i mean it's pretty obvious though like because at the end of the day she the reset


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yeah kind of the reception area of the hospital is all very nice all very white you know that kind of


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thing um and then they go obviously she she goes down which again has got to be a bit like yeah


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it's got to be a silent you've bought 26 you'd be going up yeah nhs wards aren't great at the


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moment but it still looks better than what that did if it was a ward it'd be better than that


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i was gonna say i had to grab a lead pipe yesterday anyway you know it's just you know let's just


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defend off the locals but um that joke written down since you watched the episode


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but um but yeah no i i think that you know it was pretty obvious that she wasn't in the right place


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and again you know she's had a whole season worth of traveling with the doctors she's almost she's


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almost got that kind of sixth sense of danger you know she's expected yeah exactly yeah she's not


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naive anymore well i'd say that she was naive anyway but she's more switched on now that she's


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like okay now this could this could be trouble um which it ends up being anyway but um yeah no


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it was i picked on that straight away you know she just grabbed the weapon and that was uh that was


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smart and but yeah then we go into the ward with the face of bo we found out it's the face of bo's


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who's getting the message across which again you know him being psychic that explains how he gets


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the message across to the doctor because i'm sitting there thinking how did someone write on


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the psychic paper did it did it actually say it was him that sent the message no it just said go


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to uh go to floor 26 because the doctor says oh i'm here to see someone but i'm not sure who he is


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um interesting but um yeah so that's almost interesting almost as interesting though as the


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uh the kind of the exorcist treatment i mean the the treatments there i i don't know hospitals are


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the best times but there were some interesting kind of treatments going on going on i mean well


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first of all they had some kind of you know the scene in the exorcist where the the kid like rises


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up from the bed and he's just levitating that above the bed yeah later god it was literally just


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levitating there and i was like that's a bit creepy but okay fair enough and then of course


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you had the guy that was turning into stone and you know it just some very weird and wonderful


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treatments and everything like that which again you know it just it's kind of you know it's props


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to the to the writers and the effects group because you know you are in the future you know


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you're five million years in the future there's bound to be some weird yeah weird and wonderful


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diseases which you know they also got the creative fat so so fair play to them it was uh yeah i quite


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quite like to for setting up you're in a hospital in the future you know we have hospitals now so


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how do you determine between a hospital now and a hospital in the future well just yeah you have to


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cure cases for levitation and stuff yeah exactly exactly right the stone guy do you reckon that's


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an early case of the angels no if you if you think about without that's one thing again if you think


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about what the rumors are behind the angels there's no way that could relate to the angels but there's


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the episode with amy where she starts slowly turning to stone right yeah but that's because


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the angels inside her well maybe the angels inside it there's no i reckon more is this a moffat story


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then no he could backtrack it no i don't don't think so i mean that could be me angel easter


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again if you're saying that that's the thing that could be the angel easter oh yeah fair enough it


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could be yeah maybe i'm calling i'm convinced it's the angel easter i've called this from from the


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last episode of season one no and you should definitely call it every week yeah i do want to


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check was the easter egg actually in this episode because i personally didn't see it myself no no


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no i don't think it was okay i'm glad you said that though because at the end of the day i couldn't


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see any angels unless it was this angel turning into stone but that was it i was sitting there


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looking through it i was like i don't see any angels i was like oh no that's it and i'm so glad


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that you jumped the gun and you said to me that the easter egg wasn't in there and i was like i


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thank god for that that's that saves my embarrassment so uh yeah so that's uh that's it um yeah and then


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of course we see the face of both for a little callback uh well a second callback um from you


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know kind of gisandra which i quite like actually i like that they kind of brought some of the


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characters back from from episode two um season one yeah something that happens a lot throughout


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the episode twos of russell's era to be fair yeah he's a moody bastard in this one though isn't he


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doesn't say anything until the end he's starting at an old age man yeah yeah but then he just gets to


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the episode he's like i actually know i actually don't feel like dying now see you later mate


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now didn't i say you got cured or something why what i don't know no i'm calling all that


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drama so it's actually because they hadn't had season three commissioned at this point


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so he wrote face of bone was going to give the story was going to reveal it at the end of this


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series then they got commissioned for series three so he rewrote it but left him in so i think it's


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a bit of a nothing included uh inclusion to be fair yeah okay yeah so they so they gambled hard


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on it not being commissioned season three and then had to undo after they done okay i get it i get it


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um what i don't get though is of course we got this high tech hospital in the future


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so you've got weird and wonderful kind of potions iv bags people levitating cat nurses all that stuff


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um but they decide to use see-through dust sheets as what you mean well if you look at the privacy


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curtains and everything they just see through dust sheets like surely you'd be like oh let's


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just put up a force field or something like i don't know i don't know i don't know is the


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answer bbc and budget yeah it looked like they were painting the hospital while they were


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while they were there you know there's loads of dust sheets hanging around everywhere there's


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some bloke painting the ceiling another one drilling the walls you know that's it maybe that is what


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hostels are like anyway they have those curtains it's like a it's our school thing isn't it yeah


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but they're like kind of fabric curtains maybe this was the uh this would have been like the posh


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exclusive ward so maybe they all know each other and it's like a networking event and what so you


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can see each other through the curtains as you slowly die in bed if you were taken into hospital


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and they said to you right just keep the noise down the guy next to you is slowly turning into


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stone would you or would you not want to see that oh i don't think i want to say i don't


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want hospitals anyway it was a bit of a grim episode for me i'm not i'm not a fan of hospitals


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if they said the person next to you is slowly levitating would you be like can i just have a


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quick look i'd want to throw a few things and just see a bit bounced off like if it was like


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you know because you know what's like what's like what are you levitating you just want to throw


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shit at people what's wrong with you then you try to put your hand underneath to see if anything's


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popping up yeah like the hula hoop out but you know like when you're well you don't know when


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you're in space but like when you're in space of course there's no like resistance so if you


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was to throw something to someone all right you'd go the other way but when that object hits that


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person they'd carry they'd then like kind of knock on and they'd just go for it i'd want to see if


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you could just knock them into the wall that is the weirdest initial reaction i've ever heard i


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think yeah i don't understand it i won't lie it's busy it's just yeah let's not get into it let's


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move along so we then go to the old switcheroo the the old freaky friday switcheroo and uh


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cassandra switches switches body well i can't even say she switches bodies with rose because rose just


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is still in rose's brain it's just she's pushed to the back i think cassandra says or something


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yeah she's being compressed into oblivion or something i think the doctor says at one point


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right yeah which i guess is a convenient thing and of course they they also make it a convenient


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point that her cassandra's brain that's in the jar is then completely decayed so she then can't go


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back into it and i actually thought before they said that i was like oh shit rose is dead they've


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just killed rose is the doctor gonna have to like kind of go through some weird you know kind of i


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don't know some kind of psychic realm or something but no they they then said that she was actually


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compressed at the back of her brain and again it made for yeah it was a convenient thing but um


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yeah it comes back in human form and then she wants the d


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then she wants the d


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do you want to redo that jp that fellow deaf ears she was straight on the doctor you know so


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i don't know maybe maybe she thought that david tennant was better looking than christopher


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eccleston i think she's probably not wrong i mean she's 100 right yeah i don't know


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it certainly gives way to just what must have absolutely blown my mind as a child even watching


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it as an adult i'm like right i'm gonna have to pause and knock one out quickly because


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oh fuck me she's so fit when cassandra is raised all the lines like living inside a bouncy castle


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oh yeah fair play to billy piper and david ten because it just they were they had to act as a


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character that was being taken over by a different character so they're almost playing two characters


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at once and fair play to them they both absolutely smashed it i mean you know billy piper there with


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the different accent and the different mannerisms and just it was just perfect and then david


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tenent as well just playing cassandra as you know inside the doctor was just it was just brilliant


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you know it was just so funny to watch and again it's a testament to good acting you know both


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both obviously very good actors and and that's it but uh yeah no it was quite funny when she's


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looking at herself in the mirror and she's just like oh no i'm the chad uh yeah i forgot the word


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chad existed and i was like wow yeah i forgot about that word i bet camp david tenent is some


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of your favorite stuff in this episode brad oh he's class isn't he come on anything david tenent does


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we know he's brilliant and when he puts on a camp actor and it's it's just the best isn't it he's


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pretty good to be fair yeah so we then of course then get a little bit more where um rose and the


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doctor meet back up you know uh cassandra gets confused by a mobile phone and then works out how


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to use it but it just makes me really funny how she starts putting cockney rhyming slang in there


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as well yeah yeah how does she speak old earth cockney yeah i'll be apple and pear yeah which


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just really makes me laugh because it obviously must cockney rhyming slang must have existed


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five million years in the future because like that's like in the same way that latin still


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exists to a degree yeah but nobody speaks anymore some people do you get some fucking weirdos


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yeah no it's that's it you know so the fact that cassandra had you know kind of knowledge


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about cockney rhyming slang just say yeah it tells me that the companies they live around five


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