S1 E7 - The Long Game

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Sep 14, 2023

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Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Doctor Who. This week we're on

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episode 7 is it JP? 7 I think? Yep, episode 7, the long game. Episode 7, the long game.

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I'm Josh and with me as always is my co-host Jack. JP, how are you doing? I'm all good,

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thank you. All good. Even better now I've seen this episode, so yeah. Right, well before

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we jump in, I want to go off on a complete tangent if you don't mind. I have just watched

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one of the Wired autocomplete interviews on YouTube. Have you seen these, right? No,

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I've never seen them. Right, so you get like a celebrity or two celebrities on and they

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get handed like a board with their most googled questions on it, right? And then they reveal

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it and they answer the questions. And I've just watched Robert Downey Jr. and Christopher

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Nolan, they're promoting the new Oppenheimer film, right? Okay, yep. Robert Downey Jr.

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has his Iron Man beard. Like, fact, 100% he's got his Iron Man beard. He's fucking coming

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back as Iron Man in something, I'm telling you. Yeah, that's not a bad shout. I'd love

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him to, to be honest, I'd love him to. And you've got Armour Walls round the corner.

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And I know we are going off on a tangent, this is a Doctor Who podcast, but you've got

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Armour Walls round the corner. You've got Armour Walls coming round the corner. You

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know, it's got to be there. It has to be there. But we'll see. We'll see. He has to be coming

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back. He's got the beard. We're recording this just to be clear on the 20th of June,

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20th of July 2023. It's a Thursday. The interview came out about an hour ago. Don't watch it

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after this. He has his Iron Man beard. He's either trolling the fuck out of us, or he's

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coming back as Iron Man. Yeah, that's not a bad shout. It's a very good shout. But anyway,

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I just wanted to get that off my chest and get it recorded out there in the world in

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case it does happen. I'll be like, I was the first fucking one to call it, even though

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this episode is going to come out in like a week's time. So there we go. 20th of July

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though. That's important, ladies and gentlemen. That is important. Remember that. The 20th

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of July, over a week before you were listening to this, I called it. So when you see all

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the headlines coming up two or three days ago, I recorded it first. Well, you're getting

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a little behind the scenes there, you know. But anyway, moving on. Before we start, I

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put a poll up on Instagram because the new Sonic screwdriver was revealed today. Have

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you seen it, JP? No, I haven't yet. Actually, no. I've literally recorded fresh off of the

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finishing of work. So yeah, so I've jumped straight in. So I haven't. So the new Sonic

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screwdriver looks like a short little fat penis. I'm not a big fan of it. And so I thought

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I'd put a poll up what's the best Sonic screwdriver. And I suppose you haven't seen them. You've

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only seen the first one, right, JP? I've only seen the first one. I'm now just Googling

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to see what the latest Sonic screwdriver looks like. So carry on talking. I'm just Googling.

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So yeah, so I'll pad for time. So I thought I'd put a poll up to see what everyone's favorite

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one is. And surprisingly, Matt Smith's Sonic screwdriver is winning at the minute on 36%

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of the vote, closely followed by my favorite Peter Capaldi's, the 12th Doctor. And then

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we've got Christopher Ecclestone and David Tennant's in the third place. And Jodie Whittaker's

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unsurprisingly in on fourth place. So yeah, I mean, new Sonic screwdriver looks fine.

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It looks like a throwback to like Christopher Ecclestone's with a bit of Matt Smith's and

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Capaldi's thrown in there as well. But yeah, have you got it up JP?

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Well, of course they asked a dodgy question to be asking, but yeah, sure. You know, I've

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got to say I'm liking it. I actually quite like that.

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Yeah, I'm not a fan. Maybe it'll grow a little. I don't know. I like the little kind of brass

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rings that rotate around near the top. I quite like that.

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Anyway, just have a quick look at the Insta story and see out of the four on there, which

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is your favorite.

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Okay, let's go to the Insta. So let's have a look.

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I refuse to pad for time this time. We're going to sit in silence until you've looked

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at it. I'm not editing it out either.

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The Insta tag, you know, dochoopod, give us a follow on there. Oh, in fact, you know

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what? I can see you've actually put it up there as well. Okay. So what's my favorite

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screw? Oh, call number four is a bit weird. That's a strange one.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm going to go for three condiments are all today has been mashed up a bit, didn't it?

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Really? Yeah, that's a stranger. I'm going to go for number one. That looks to me that

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if someone said a summit screwdriver, I'd say number one.

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Interesting. Interesting. I actually have number one and number three as a toy back

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home in one of my drawers.

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That's probably where I recognized it from actually. So gone. Oh, I can see our votes

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at 22% said number one. So who's this number one then?

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That's that's that's the one we're watching at the minute. That is Christian. Yeah. Oh,

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that's probably the most. Yeah, that'll be why you like it. Yeah. All right. Anyway,

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so yeah, follow the Insta JP. Do you want to mention the Twitter?

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Yeah. So we this week have we've gone for a Twitter account as well. Give us a follow

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on there. We'll you know, we'll be as responsive as we can. And yeah, we'll just put as many

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updates if there's any polls or anything like that. It's it will go on there as well along

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with TikTok, Instagram and thread as well. We're covering all the bases with the Twitter

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handle nice and simple at dot coup pod. And that's it. Same as the Instagram.

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Same as every social media. I hate social media, Jack. This is a means to an end, I

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tell you. But anyway, chat to Vortex Doctor, who also agrees that big parties Sonic screwdriver

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is the best because it is it just is. That's the end of it over. Anyway, the long game,

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JP. The long game like this introduction is a very long introduction that says the long

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game should let's let's jump in. So the first note I've got is the doctor is the world's

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best wingman. Isn't he just that little bit where they

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chucked out the TARDIS? I love it. I love it. He didn't even need any cues or anything

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like that. He was straight on there and he was like, look, this is this is it. This is

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it. We're going over there. Go fish. And then and then of course, Adam comes out and she's

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just like, yeah, this is I think this is a fair play to Rose because Rose got the she

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got the brief straight away. She did. Yeah. Yeah. She was just like, oh, I know what I'm

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doing here and I'm going to look impressive. And that's it. And yeah, I like the I like

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her improv as well. Oh, I can tell by the architecture. Oh, I can hear the engines.

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Like, yeah, but how soft to that was a good little bit, to be fair. Although I've got

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to say when Adam comes out of the TARDIS, it is so obviously just like a box that's

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been made. That's the most obvious I've seen it all season. Like he's just looking out

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of a pitch black box. I haven't even tried with any visual effects or anything.

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No, I was going to say it did look a bit wonky, but hey, look, you know, but what was interesting

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as well is kind of knowing how the episode ends. Rose actually makes a comment about

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it being very hot. Yes, straight off the bat, straight out of that. So straight away. I

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mean, of course, you know, as you kind of, you know, as you carry on watching the episode,

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but straight off the bat, she says, oh, it's really hot. So, you know, a little hint that

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something's not right straight away. And of course, you can see the doctor's very confused.

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And, you know, kind of he's looking and he's just like, something's not right. And again,

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it's great acting by Christopher Eccleston there. He's kind of, he's playing someone

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that's trying to show that everything's in control at the same time. He's sitting there

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thinking what's up and I can't put my finger on it. So yeah, I like it.

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Kind of the duck. No, it's very cool. Yeah, I love it. And then they obviously they go

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to the viewing platform, viewing deck, whatever you want to call it. They look out onto the

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earth, which has, you know, skyscrapers, the size of cities. And I'm just looking at anything.

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That's Coruscant. They've done Star Wars, haven't they?

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Oh, yeah, that is it. I mean, I don't know how I'm assuming when they made Coruscant,

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they were kind of going for just a kind of a metropolis that was a that was a world.

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But, you know, if you think about it, I mean, it's it's the year 200,000 AD. Yeah, there's

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going to be loads there. There's going to be, you know, grass isn't going to be needed

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to be done because the technology is there to replicate. It's kind of a cold, cold world.

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But you can see the way that that's the world. Yeah, the world's going forward. But the only

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thing I did mention, I kind of I did think was, you know, it's the year 200,000 AD, but

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it looked very rusty. And I know that that's again explained further down the episode.

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But I was like, I couldn't at least kind of make the technology to have material that

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doesn't rust. But yeah, but I think that's that's the Star

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Wars effect again, isn't it? When OG Star Wars came out, it was this is the future,

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but it's a lived in future. That was what George Lucas wanted to get across. And it's

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same thing. And obviously, yeah, it's been set back 100 years.

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That's true. Well, 91, 91 years, 91. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Someone's just watched the

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fucking episode. But yeah, so that was that was that was my

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thought. I was like, OK, fair enough. But again, I know what you say is like George

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Lucas with Star Wars. You know, he took inspiration. He was helping.

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He was helping on a salt mine kind of factory and everything was very rusted because of

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the salt. Salt just corrodes, you know, corrodes metal.

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And he looks at it and he was like, that's what I want. You know, I want to I want a

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future. But as you say, a lived in future. So, you know, I didn't get it.

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But yeah. So and then, of course, we go straight into kind of what I'm assuming was trying

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to be dagging a market, but on a food kind of basis instead. And the one thing that really

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did strike me there and it made me think of a it made me think of a story that Ian McKellen

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actually said about being home because the vendor calls the doctor sweetheart. He says,

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oh, yeah, for you, sweetheart. I'll sign the letter. And it made me think of a story. There

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was there was an interview with Sir Ian McKellen. I couldn't tell you when it did. Not recently.

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It must be kind of 10 years ago. And he tells a story about going home. And he says he knew

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he knew he was home because when he jumped in the cab, the cab driver, who was this kind

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of just, you know, this massive bloke just said, oh, where we're going to love.

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And that's it. Like, you know, and I think it's yeah, it's I'm sure it was Manchester.

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I'm sure he went to Manchester. Yeah, definitely. Big old man. And he and the guy was just like,

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yeah, where you going to love, you know, it's just like, I mean, around kind of an ethics,

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you know, you wouldn't you wouldn't call another man, especially another man that you don't

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know. You just know exactly what you're doing. But, you know, and that's the thing. And I

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thought I did think that that might have been like a kind of a little bit of inspiration

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because, you know, Manchester and everything like that. And I was like, that's quite a

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nice touch. That's yeah, maybe chocolate. Maybe. Yeah. See, I thought that was a comment

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on like how sex and gender doesn't we won't get into it because I had to edit quite a

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bit out last week about how sex and gender is not anything anymore. Do you know what

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I mean? Like there's a bit where yeah, he's where she spikes for the first time and she

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sits down. She says something like ladies, gentlemen, multisex, undecided or robot. She

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does. Yes. No, you're right. Yeah. No, I can't. I suppose it's kind of the Star Trek thing,

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isn't it? You know, you look at Star Trek and, you know, it's just kind of nobody cares.

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That's that's the thing. Exactly. Nobody cares. It is, you know, my favourite saying it is

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what it is. Yeah. Yeah. But no. So that was that was something.

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But yeah, and I actually think about it and might just be just a general comment. You

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know, you may just call everyone sweetheart. But yeah, it did make me laugh, though. And

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then, of course, they meet the two journalists there whose names escape me. Suki and Calcutta,

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Katika, something like that. Yeah, something like that. I don't think it was Calcutta because

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that's a place. But yeah, maybe laugh because the not Suki, the other lady, I'm going to

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have to Google this again. Real professionalism on identifying it. But I think it was Africa.

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That's it. Yeah. Something like that. So Kathy, she she she's like, oh, who are you? Who are

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you? And then the doctor, of course, brings out his little ID card and she just changes

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her tone on a dime. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, she's like, she sees that promotion. And again,

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I kind of got that feeling that Russell T. Davis, he the overall theme for this episode

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was a kind of commentary on corporate, the corporate rat race. Oh, mate, don't even.

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Yeah. Fake news, immigration. They've done a good job, like, predicting the future there.

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But it's not 200,000 years in the future. It was 20 years in the future. I've got that

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whole bit with Simon Pegg. I'm like, Jesus Christ, you are describing 2023. It's insane.

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Yeah. But I mean, this is the thing, though, because it's it's always, you know, especially

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with the corporate thing as well. You know, when you when you work in a big company, you're

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always looking up. You're not looking about where you're around. Yeah. You know, these

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people didn't didn't, you know, they're not worried about their surroundings being dirty

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and rusty and, you know, almost inhumane. They're looking up. They're like, no, the

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the walls are gold on top. That's where that's where I want to go. And I'm not saying I'm

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not saying that you shouldn't be motivated in life to achieve. But at the same time,

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though, you sometimes you got to stop and you just got to look and just go, this is

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where I am. I've done well, you know. I totally agree. I am actually going to take a second

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now that you've brought it up to plug my other podcast, Two Bro Brokers, because I have a

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huge thing on this. We're all so focused on moving up the ladder that we lose sight of

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what we're actually doing, which I think is a huge message in this episode. And it's bullshit.

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We're all conditioned to be on this rat race, to keep on moving up, to keep on doing this,

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to keep on buying the new things, keep on doing this. It's not important. We need to

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be. I'm not going to run the banner here. If you do want to. I'm so sorry. I said, oh,

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no, I really fucking I haven't even picked up on that until you've just bought it. This

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is not in my notes at all. It's bullshit, man. It's absolute bullshit. And it fucking

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it comes back around in this series without spoiling anything. This is called the long

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game and it comes back around and it's fucking bullshit, JP. We're all fucking suffering

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from it as well. We are all having this information fucking fed into our brains through social

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media and through fucking fake news and it's killing us. And we're not progressing as a

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society as a fucking result of it. You know, I've just solved the Rubik's Cube in your

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rant there, by the way. I solved the Rubik's Cube, made a cup of tea. I put the dinner

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on. Honestly, that was incredible. But I'm sorry for setting him off. I'm very sorry.

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But I hate it. Move on. Move on. Oh, no, that that there goes the majority of my comments.

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Yeah. So yeah, that was that was that was an interesting thing. So moving on. Yeah.

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So of course, we get the first view of the what I would suppose you would call the editing

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room with Simon Pegg. Oh, yeah. Just before we jump to that, the lift up there where it's

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traveling at like 100 floors a second. I live in Dubai. I go up floors 50, 60, 70. Her ears

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or his ears or whoever's in that lift would be popping like fucking crazy. I tell you.

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That's all I could think when I was watching that scene is they're going with that. I was

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like, what are you talking about? 100 percent. You got 20 floors and your ears start popping.

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Yeah, but we're on Earth. So would they? I mean, I don't know the physics behind it,

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but that's a good question. There's no gravity in your ears. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. But there's artificial air in there. There's there's a fake gravity in that space

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station. Oh, no, don't get me wrong. She would have been absolutely smushed on the floor

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like the way the way how quickly that lift was going. Gravity still works. It just gets

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to floor 500 and it just stops dead as well. There's no slowdown. It's just like you've

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hit a brick wall or the central reservation or something and you just stopped. She would

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have been like kind of stuck on the floor and then they'd have had to peel off the ceiling

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when it stopped. It would have just been like kind of I don't know, like pizza dough, you

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know, when you kind of like throw it from one hand to the other. It literally would

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have been like that. Yeah. I would have loved to see that. Yeah. But yeah, so go on. So

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the editing room. Yeah. So, yeah. So we get a first look at the editing room with Simon

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Pegg, who I just cannot rate high enough as an actor. I know I said it last week, but

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I love Simon Pegg. He's so good. He's just he's a delight in this. He's sort of campy.

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He's brilliant. He's very good. He is very good. And of course, I put Alex, you know,

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kind of super cool in technology. Always cool. But I mean, that was taken into another level.

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They've turned Simon Pegg Albino. They have. That was a really weird way to say Albino,

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by the way. I think I went American for a second. I'll fix it in the edit. I'll say

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Albino. There you go. I'll edit that bit back in.

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Oh, dear. But yeah, so of course, we then find out that the people there are actually

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they're actually dead. And that's part of the reason why I'm assuming they had it super

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cool. Not only Max, but for, you know, kind of to stop decomposing everything, which again

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is kind of creepy, kind of weird. But I was thinking, yeah, that was quite interesting.

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Are they dead, though, because you get the little bit at the end where Suki grabs his

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leg. What's that? Because they got the they got the computer chip, haven't they? But are

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they alive or are they dead? How does she grab his leg? Just just firing electric, like

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electric just through a muscle through the computer. Did you see her tits at that point?

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No, but go back and rewatch it. I've just put a note here that just says boobs on dead

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Suki pulling peg. Like just there's a few of Suki's boobs. There's one bit where they're

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watching her on the camera and it's like an overhead shot. I'm like, oh, boobs. And then

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when she topples on the floor and she's dead, which is weird. I'm not a necrophiliac, by

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the way, but like Simon Pegg is jiggling his leg, which is jiggling her arm, which in turn

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is obviously having a bit of a titi titi wiggle. I was just like, oh, love a bit of boob.

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Just ice cold, you know, ice cold, dead boobs, my favourite kind.

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Will this stay in the will this stay in the edit? I don't think so. But yeah, OK, so the

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biggest question, they're going on to the biggest question of this episode. A beef slush puppy.

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I'd try it. Would you? Yeah, no, so would I. That in fact, there you go. That makes it. I don't

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know. I mean, I have bacon in a milkshake at Five Guys. Yeah. Don't you think it just sounds

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like something you'd get at Reading Festival? There'll be one nutter with a stall that's selling

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fucking beef milkshakes. 100 percent. I mean, yeah, well, beef milkshake. I don't know,

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because beef and milk doesn't seem like it goes together. Beef slushy, you know what I mean?

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Beef slushy. Yeah, no, that seems like I mean, they give they give like you see it when it's

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already hot, they'll give like kind of like beef popsicles to like the lions and tigers and everything

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like that. And they just lay there and lick them like ice lice. I bet it exists to be fair. I bet

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there is a beef slush puppy or something. Probably. Very futuristic, you know, there's

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very, very futuristic in the fact that they're like, oh, yeah, we just put meat in everything

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and you know, there's no such thing as normal food anymore. Yeah, no, exactly. It is there is

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is there. There is. Oh, no, it's coming up with the TARDIS wiki. So no, I presume it'd be not.

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So, yeah. So then. OK, so we were talking about boobs.

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Which we're probably going to edit out, but we'll we'll get there. So I bet I won't.

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Well, hey, up to you, up to you. You're you're the editor. I just do the socials, you know.

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I am Simon Pegg. I'm the editor. You're the editor. I was to say, technically Max is the one that

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wanted to know, but we'll get to Max in a bit. We'll get to Max. Well, just just whilst we're on

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him. What's his name? Max, what's his species? He's alien. No, I'll give you. I don't know the

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full thing, but he's the mighty something. It was one of those things, right? Where's where's my note?

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So my note is thank fuck. He called him Max because I have no chance of getting that name

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because literally as soon as I was like, oh, no, I was sitting there. I was I was getting ready

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to write at the top of my notes again and break it all down. They went, but we call him Max. And

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I was like, Simon, you absolute angel. I now don't have to worry. I can just call him Max,

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which is perfect. So I'm going to do one of the questions in our series finale quiz is going to

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be named the aliens. This one's the mighty Jagrath. Jagrath. No, I swear there was something else on

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there as well. That's why they call it. Yeah, it's a really long name. It's the mighty Jagrath of

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something, something, something. But Jagrath, we call him Jack. Well, we call him Max because

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Max is like, you know, right, go on. You want to talk about the first bite? Yes. So the first

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bite. So the thing I put in, of course, they all then circle circle around and they what, you know,

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I thought was going to play the bongos, but it's actually just the connectivity thing. And so I

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noticed is, you know, it's the year 200,000 AD, but everyone still dresses for the noughties,

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which everybody still dresses terribly. Yeah. I was like, yeah, okay. Yeah. I'm seeing those low cut

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jeans and those kind of very, you know, kind of questionable t-shirts and well kind of t-shirt

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jumper things, but yeah, well, sadly, yeah, that means I'm making a comeback as well. I'm not a

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fan of it. I don't mind them. I mean, I can't wear them, but I don't mind them. I don't have the

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figure for it. You know, right. So I have a question. What is happening there? Well, he

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explains it, doesn't he? He says that it's there. Well, what he said, again, I wasn't sure because

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when it came to, you know, kind of revealing, you know, pulling back the curtain and showing the

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true wizard, I wasn't sure if that actually meant everything the doctor said was fake, but they were

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saying that they were uploading information directly to her brain. So all of the news in the

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world at the time. Okay. But then he says, as soon as she closes, she forgets it. It's in her brain,

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but she can't remember once that closes because her mind would blow up, right? Because the mind

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would blow up. Yeah. So what's the point? That's a good point actually. Because we see at the

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beginning, there's like news reports and stuff, and it's just news reporters talking. So why,

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what's the thing with, like, I get it as a social commentary, we're just getting information fed

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into our brains, but I don't get it from a narrative point of view, because she doesn't

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do anything with the information as far as I'm aware. She's not broadcasting there. And then

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it doesn't go anywhere. Like, I don't get it. Yeah. I mean, in fairness, we didn't actually see the

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full process because the editor cut it off, didn't, because they kind of interrupted Sukhi's

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connection, I guess you'd call it. They've interrupted that, and that's what cut it short.

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Yeah, but Sukhi is the one with the boots. Yeah, but because Kafka's on the chair,

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and then Kafka calls to Sukhi. She says, she says, oh, what are you doing? And she was,

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oh, it must have been a glitch. And then of course they come over and take us down. So I'm assuming

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if we'd have seen the full process, we might have had a better idea of what's then done with that

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information, whether they like extract it or something. Who knows? I don't know. Yeah,

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it just seemed very strange. I've seen this episode a hundred times and I was watching it

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quite intently. I was quite into it this week, but I was just, I don't know what this is doing.

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Yeah. Other than setting up the finale, obviously. Yeah. Well, that's true. That's true. I mean,

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like we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but I wonder if Sukhi has something to do with

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the finale. Cause I did, there was a plot point that was just never picked up on again in the

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episode. And I was like, I wonder if that's got something to do with the finale. Cause I remember

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you saying, this is going to be, this is setting up the season finale. And I was like, I wonder

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if it's going to be that, but we'll get there. We'll get there when we get there. Adam's a bit

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dodgy, isn't he? Oh, what a slimy little man. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I don't know. Like you look

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at the previous episode, I know you were moaning saying that he left Rose to, you know, kind of

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fend off the Dalek, but I don't know. I think I felt like that was a kind of Rose just being slow,

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but I just, yeah, he really changed his, he's kind of, I don't know. He just changed his tone.

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Really. He was there for profit. I like it. Yeah. So what? Yeah. I just, as a counterpoint,

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to Rose, just to show that actually Rose is, because we all sort of like the point of the

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doctor and a companion is that we will relate to one of them. If we don't relate to the doctor,

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we relate to the companion. That's typically why it's male and female. So we all expect

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ourselves to make the same decisions that Rose makes. We all think, oh, well, we'd all do the

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same thing in that situation. So I think by inserting Adam, it's a reminder to the audience

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members that actually Rose is above and beyond what the normal person would do. The normal person

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would sell out. The normal person would, you know, be a little bit dodgy with it. Maybe.

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Yeah. I can't like the guy from the save and private Ryan, isn't it? You know, the, the,

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the one that's cowardly towards the end. Yeah. Just watches that guy get knifed in the, in the,

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in the chest. Oh, how could he do that? How could he stand there? And then you're like, oh, actually

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like probably the true human reaction is to protect yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. But I, I, yeah. So I think his inclusion in this is brilliant. He is an absolute

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slime. I did expect something else to happen when he gets the key to the TARDIS. I was like,

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that's gotta be something other than it just coming out of his pocket. That was a bit,

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it's been like, oh, there should have been better payoff.

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Yeah. I, I thought when, when she gave him the keys, one thing straight away,

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Rose is a bit too trusting, isn't she? Yeah. I mean, she's just, she's just met this man.

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And she's given him the keys to the car. Like, you know, you just, that's a rookie move, you know,

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sitting down for a first date on a dinner and just going, oh, here's my card. Yeah, exactly.

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It is. Yeah. Yeah. Just like, I get that you have to have that element of trust,

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but trust has got to be built. You can't just go there and then. And it kind of,

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it kind of does backfire a little bit really not as stressed at me as it could have, but yeah,

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I genuinely thought he was going to run off with the TARDIS and trap him there, but he, he just

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said, yeah, he just ended up getting the front, you know, kind of a frontal lobotomy of the

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scariness really. But yeah, instead of, instead of going off and running around in the TARDIS,

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he goes downstairs and has a weirdly sexual encounter with a medical officer.

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Yeah. He was strangely seductive. She was getting very close to him for a medical

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professional. You'd be asking questions, you know, just like her voice and everything. I was

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just like, is she doing, is she being sexy on, like, I'm not attracted to her, but I was like,

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this, you could probably trick me into sleeping with you, I reckon. I just saw it getting those

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vibes. Do you know what I mean? Two very like kind of distinct ends of the stick there. You've got

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kind of a complete frontal lobotomy or, you know, kind of your sleeping with them, you know,

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Well, any how's the girl JP? Oh dear. Oh no, that's not an image I want. Oh no.

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Oh God, I'd give you another headache though, wouldn't it? Oh, I fucking bet it would.

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What would you even call that? A mind job? Oh don't. Oh no, that's literally a mind fuck.

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Oh yeah, it is. Oh, there goes our PG rating. Are we giving head or are we getting head? I don't know.

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Oh no. Anyway, should we get back on topic before we

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get to the next one? Lots of edits to do this week that I'll completely forget. Oh dear. Yeah,

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again, I've really don't want to set you off, but I've got to mention the rat race again.

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Let me run with this one. Let me run with this one. So big commentary on the rat race again,

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from Russell T. Davis, you know, rats in a maze climbing the way to the top, but they find it's

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just cold. There's not, you know, that promise of gold just isn't there. It's just ice cold,

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you know, and there's a saying dog eat dog, you know what I mean? It just,

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that was that big Suki site site. And I know she's pretending to be someone that's going to be

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excited, but she's excited to get out there and she gets up there and it's just not what is cracked

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up to me. Just a damning reality. Yeah, it's a big commentary. It's, you know, it was very, very

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obvious that that's kind of one of the two themes that Russell T. Davis was going for on this one.

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So, and then we bring on some Simon Pegg again, and it's just, he just does the little, he's that

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little hand wave he does just with the fingers. And I'm just like, that is brilliant. Oh, good.

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It's just, oh, that's brilliant. Honestly, if we can get Simon Pegg on it, it would make,

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it would make like, yeah, kind of fun really. Oh, don't even, that'd be fucking class. I did like

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as well, that when they do go up, nobody notices this weird fleshy shark thing hanging from the

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ceiling until Simon Pegg tells them to look up. It happens with the doctor and Rose, it happens with

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Suki. Now you'd notice that wouldn't you? I was going to say, if something growled at me from the

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ceiling, I probably didn't look up. You know, it's a natural reaction, isn't it? Especially if you've

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been told the walls are gold, your eyes are naturally going to be looking at the walls and

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presumably the ceiling at the same time. Nobody picks it up until Simon Pegg is, I just, you know,

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I'm picking flaws in this scene. Yeah, no, yeah, that's it. But, um, well, how cool was the, uh,

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was the reveal, like the revelation that she was a spy, though? Oh, it's nothing really. Do you know

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what I mean? I quite like that. I just didn't, I honestly didn't see it coming at all until she

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pulled a gun. I'm like, damn, I didn't see that. Cause when they, they kind of give you a little

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bit of a red herring because when the episode first starts, the editor is looking on the screen and

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he's saying something's up here, something's up. And of course you think it's the doctor. Yeah.

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They're in the same frame as Suki. And you just kind of, you think, oh, it's probably making a

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comment on the doctor. The fact that the doctor shouldn't be there, but it's actually Suki. I

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really, really liked that. I thought that was a brilliant red herring. And it was just like,

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wow, just suddenly she just went from zero to a hundred real quick. And it was like, okay,

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fair enough. I mean, I was a little bit gutted that she kind of died. I was hoping they'd do a

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little bit more, you know, kind of with her parents and before they killed her off, but yeah, I guess

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it showed that the stakes are high in this place is, you know, the place there's evil. So yeah,

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another, another episode of a children's TV program with literal frozen dead bodies,

S1 E7 - The Long Game

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