S1 E6 - Dalek

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Sep 14, 2023

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Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Doctor Who. I am Josh and with

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me as always is my co-host Jack. How are you doing JP?

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I'm all good. I'm all good. Thank you. Even better now that I've seen this episode of

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Doctor Who. Got a lot to talk about again on this one. So yeah, so I'm happy to roll.

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Yeah, another one. Another good one, mate. But before we get started, I want to just

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make a couple of mentions to a few people that have been engaging on our thread. I asked

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you what your favourite Dalek story was. The Barbenheimer Doctor, very topical name there,

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I'm on hell on that last, has replied with Dalek. This is his favourite Dalek story.

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Eyepatch Story is a fellow podcaster that does more on the old Who and he's come back

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with Destiny of the Daleks, which haven't seen, we'll have to give it a look at. He

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says that's a laugh, but actually remembrance of the Daleks is the best. So two stories there

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to check out. And then we've got Raquel, who is awesome, has just said that this was the

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most amazing comeback, very captivating, especially with Rose and her role in it. Raquel is going

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to come on as a guest in a couple of weeks time. We are also on threads in a race with

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Raquel to get to 200 followers who can get there first. When we engaged in this race

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initially, she had something like 103 and we were on 98. Just a running update as of

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Tuesday when we're recording, she's on 137 and we, Jack, any guesses?

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I'm going to say 124.

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We're on 197. We just need three more followers to go. Thank you to everybody that's been

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following us, engaging with our posts on threads, Instagram. Yeah, we're very grateful. JP?

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Yeah, guys. No, thank you for the love. We really do appreciate it. And just keep asking

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us questions. We love the engagement guys. We really appreciate it. Also, we've got to

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shout out Vy's Art. She has done the artwork for this week's podcast and also last week's

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podcast as well. Go check her out on Instagram. Her Instagram, we'll link it in either of

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the comments here or we'll put it on threads, but her Instagram is Vy's Art. So that's Vy.

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Thank you Vy. She's not going to be doing all of the artwork for us. Obviously, it's

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hard work to keep churning these out, but she's definitely doing this week's and we'll

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collab with her again sometime in the future. But yeah, thank you Vy. Anything to add JP?

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There is one more thing as well. Some of you may have noticed we've also started a TikTok

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account as well. I've got to say big shout out to Bradley for running that. He's not

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on the podcast yet. He's got a massive book of excuses that he's just churning his way

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through. He's the silent podcast. He's the man in the chair. He's the Ned of this podcast.

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But a massive thanks to Bradley though. He's starting up the TikTok page and again, it's

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by and large. Go check it out. There's some really, really good TikToks on there. He's

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even encouraged me to go on TikTok. I've never had TikTok. I've actually started watching

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them and they're really, really good. So again, go check us out on there guys and really appreciate

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the love.

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Yeah. Thank you very much guys. So JP, without further ado, shall we start talking about

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Dalek?

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We should. And I've got to say, I'm glad that I actually know how to pronounce the name

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this week because listening back on the podcast was as frustrating as anything because I realised

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that I kept actually calling him the main bad guys of the fourth and fifth episode.

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I kept calling them the Slovarians as opposed to the Slovene despite actually being corrected

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mid podcast by Josh as well. I still managed to get him to know that.

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Yeah, I caught you out on it.

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Yep. No, that's just me. So I was really, really glad this week when I saw the title

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and I was like, I know how to say that one and I'm not going to get it wrong.

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Yeah. I'm actually going to do, once we finish series one, I'm going to do a series one quiz

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for you. I think that might be like a little bonus episode or something that we do like

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that.

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How to embarrass yourself online 101.

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Exactly.

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So that'll be good fun. I question actually, when do you watch these? What sort of gap

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do you leave between watching and reviewing?

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So I normally watch them on a Friday. So we typically record on Sunday, don't we? So we

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are typically saying that on Tuesdays today.

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Yeah, we're fucked up.

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But I normally watch them. Oh yeah, now that's my fault and you know, it is what it is. I

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normally watch them on a Friday. Now the reason I do that for two reasons. One, it just feels

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like it sets up my weekend nicely. It's good to sit down and watch it. And two, when I'm

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actually commuting in as well on the week that I'm in London and in the office, it's

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actually really, really good because the train is as quiet as anything on a Friday morning,

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which is perfect. So I can sit down without any distractions, having to move out of the

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way for people or anything. So I can sit down and fully watch the, fully watch the episode.

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So that's, yeah. So normally, normally a couple of days in between, yeah, kind of watching

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it and then recording. Okay. Gives you a nice time to ponder on it. You also mentioned the

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episode name was darling. Have you been looking at all of the episode names or is it just

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as you go along? As I go along, I've decided to stay completely spoiler free. I'm just

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watching the episode as it comes along and just the episode title. So I've not looked

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ahead to see any episode names or anything like that. Yeah, good. Make sure you don't.

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I actually found an interesting fact that there is in this series, there is one episode

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that the title spoils the episode. What I didn't realize is they in the lead up to it,

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they actually named the episode something else. They only changed the name of the episode

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when the episode aired to prevent the spoilers and everything. So don't look ahead is what

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I'm saying. If you can resist. Yeah. I mean, technically this one was kind of a spoiler,

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kind of wasn't, I mean, they showed it in the next time anyway, didn't they? They showed

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that it was a darling there. I guess if you'd missed the next time episode and you just

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come into this one fresh, it's kind of a reveal, isn't it? It's like, Oh, that's it. So I suppose

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it's kind of a spoiler, but kind of not, but I'm going to stay, I'm going to stay as fresh

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as possible. So I'm avoiding all future episode names and everything. They actually intended

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this one to be a spoiler. Again, I was reading it up on this. The reason they called it darling,

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the reason that they revealed it in the next time trailer and way in advance of the series

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is because they were so scared that there was going to be a mid series drop off. Cause

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this is like 12 or 30 episodes or everything that they put this episode specifically here

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to avoid that. They knew people were going to keep on watching to see the Daleks again.

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So they thought, right, we'll slap it in the middle. Then people have to watch the full

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series. They're going to want to see how it starts. They're going to want to see how it

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ends. How do we engage them in the middle? That's like a fucking darling episode in there.

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Makes sense. Yeah. No, it's clever marketing. I think a lot more, you know, I'm looking

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at kind of Marvel things now. I think a lot more TV series should probably do the same,

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not necessarily spoil the episode there and then, but you know, you need to have some

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mid series engagement. Yeah. Yeah. The roads revealed didn't do it for you. That wasn't

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a good mid series reveal. Just, he was so blind and the obvious, you know, it was like,

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he'd actually come out and slapped me in the face and just gone, I'm a scroll right at

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the start. And you know, it was just like, ah, well, you know, that's, that's, that's

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another topic for another episode of a podcast that we'll do surely in the future. That's

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our spin off podcast. The MC who we could call it MC who that's it. We've coined it

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right there. That's MC who trademarked copyrighted. Right. Anyway, on with the episode JP, I'll

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let you run through it, beat to beat, and then I'll hit you with a few questions on

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there. Like what your specific thoughts were towards the end. Um, the only thing I want

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to say before we start is it's set in the distant future of 2012. How upsetting is that?

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You know, that's the first thing I put on my notes as well. I put 2012 ominous because

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it goes back in 2005. The world was supposed to be ended in 2012, which let's be looking

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at things now. It probably might have been, it probably did. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. The

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world ended in 2016 when Bowie died. That's another podcast. There's a real theory behind

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that. No, I've done, honestly, you're going to get me started on the Beatles theory as

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well. But yeah, so 2012, the, the, the distant future of 2012. And it's just like, Oh, that

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one's a real kick in the teeth. That's, you know, 11 years ago now, but doing some quick

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maths it's we're now further away from 2012 than Rose and the doctor were in 2005. That's

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a very good point. Yeah. Cool. There that is a scary thought, isn't it? It's quite,

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it's quite upset. Yeah, just a little bit, but I did think straight away he was like

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2012. And I was like, Oh, I wonder if they're going to go for the kind of is the world going

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to end in 2012. Cause it almost sets a kind of, the same I noticed with this episode is

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if you've got a lot of almost not nameless characters, you know, they're all in trouble.

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Whereas if you've got one or two characters, see, it's kind of like, Oh, okay. We know

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that they're going to survive because they're main characters, they're named, they've built

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stories with them. Whereas there was a lot of nameless characters and it was 2012. And

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it was like, we could be in trouble here. You know, so I quite liked the, the whole

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2012 setting, which was, which was good, but oh, so they, they turn up in the middle of

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a, of a private art, well with what I thought was an art collection at the start and was

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quickly rectified as a kind of an alien artifact collection. I didn't really, apart from the

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the Slovene hand, I didn't actually recognise an awful lot apart from the doctor looks at

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a kind of a robotic mask. Yeah, you've heard of the cyber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it looked

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to me like a cyber man. I was like, and that was the question I had was, was that the original

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kind of mask of the cyber man? I think it was like a design in the 70s, maybe 1978.

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I think I read it was something like that. Not the original original, but it was like

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a, yeah, it's like a classic iteration. They've been through so many designs, but yeah, gun

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in the head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, that was one of the original cyber men designs.

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Yeah, no, I quite, I quite love that. It's a, it's a nice little touch there. You know,

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I do like it kind of a, I suppose you could call it an Easter egg. It's a bit more obvious

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than an Easter egg, but I like that kind of stuff is attention to detail. That's, that's

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kind of stuff that I'm there for. Yeah. It's one of the first sort of, well, other than

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like the Autons in the first episode, this is the first thing that really links it back

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to classic who like is the first sort of direct connection because the Autons, they could

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have just redone, but yeah, to throw it back to the side. And it was the first sort of

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the hint that this is a continuation of the old series rather than a, rather than like

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a reboot. Yeah, no, I like that. I thought that was good. Almost as good as the, as the

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American security on this base, which it pains me to say as a Brit, but they, they just blew

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us out of the water with that, you know, straight away they were there with arms men going,

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what are you doing here? You're under arrest. Whereas if that had been back in the UK and

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episode four or five, they'd have probably, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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A sandwich break in between, but yeah. So that was, that was one thing I noticed. It

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my kind of quibbles for the last two episodes. Well, we've done up, should we say, yeah,

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this is becoming a famous, a famous segment. Jack reviews the security of the episode.

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We'll see how that plays out. Yeah. GDPR breaches, you know, you can't do them, but that's it.

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Yeah. So the, the, the main, I suppose you can call him a bad guy. It depends what side

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you look at it really. They really hit the typical American businessman douchebag right

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on the nose there. You know, he's, he's there for profit and he's there for profit only.

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Well his name in early drafts of the script was William fence. I thought he was going

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to say Donald or something like that. I was going to say, wow, that was on the nose, but

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it's a, yeah, they had to change it because can you work out why bill Gates? Exactly. Yeah.

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So they actually had to, they were like made to change it because it was too on the notes.

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Again there is some, there was some guy at Microsoft that was sitting there reading through

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the draft and went, yeah, bill Gates, the United nations hate. Yeah. Come on there.

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William fence. I like that. That's quite clever actually. I want to say up top as well. Uh,

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when I was like reading through the, uh, the notes and stuff, this episode, one thing in

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this episode got more complaints than anything else to the point where like it had to get

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like an off stead, not off stead, off com. Uh, it's not school. I had to get an off com

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like investigation into it. I would love it if you could point out what it was, but one

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thing was more complaints than anything else. Was it the commentary in the fact that what

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he said when they first go into his office, he made some kind of, I'll be shocked if you

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get this. No, I thought it was, he made some kind of comment or something about her. No,

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I don't know. What was it called? Not quite. I will, I'll reveal it at the end of the episode.

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If I remember now that's going to be a hell of a, a kind of a cliffhanger in it. You know,

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especially if we'd be like, Oh, by the way, yeah, no, no, I have actually put it at the

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bottom of my note. So yeah, we will, uh, yeah. Stay tuned to see what the most complained

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about thing in this episode was. But anyway, sorry, Jack, go on. Yeah. So they go into

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the office. Um, you know, the general chit chat. I quite like, um, the thing that really,

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I mean, I know the doctor is very intelligent. He knows a lot of, you know, a lot about the

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space and universe and everything like that. But I like straight away, he just goes, that's

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a musical instrument. And he knows exactly how to play it. And you know, that's not me

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kind of in 50 years time, musical instruments have disappeared and someone hands you a guitar

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and they go, I don't know what this is. Is it some kind of weapon? You go, yeah, it's

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a guitar and you pick it up and you play it perfect way. There's no way in hell I can

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play a guitar or piano or the drums. You know, I could have a go at it, but it's not going

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to sound as well as it probably knock out like twinkle twinkle little star or something

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on the piano. No, I used to be out in school or chop. What's the right chopsticks or something?

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Right. I think I could do that. I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do that one anymore,

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but yeah, sure. Why not? We're back in 2005 Jack. It's fine. Oh yeah. No, we, yeah. So

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2005 different time. Yeah, no, I don't think I could. What was the other one? I remember

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learning to play Buffalo Soldier on the piano. I could probably have a stab at that. Oh,

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that's quite a sick one to pull out around the bonfire. Just whip out a keyboard instead

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of a guitar. Yeah. Yeah. No, instead of, yeah, I just, what's that bulge in your pocket?

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Is it that's up? No, it's a key. Just wait till later. Wait till I've had a few later,

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you know? Yeah. So that was, I quite like that. But again, they're really trying to

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hit it on, you know, kind of the typical American businessman that's there for profit above

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everything else. And yeah, it kind of works in this episode as well. I think it, which

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yeah, I liked it. I liked it. It was a bit of kind of the thing that made me laugh. He

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says the great space dustbin. Yeah. Yeah. The, you know, about the Dalek. Oh no, sorry.

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That's after when they go down. But, but yeah, no, I like it kind of built the, that short

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conversation they have in the office builds the entire background. You know, you don't

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need any more than that anymore. Would have been overdoing it. It tells you where they

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are, what's happening, who the characters are. And it builds the story of this to me.

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I kind of got that feed that almost like that Jurassic park feeling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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That sort of crazy eccentric. Yeah. Yeah. But it's going to go wrong and you know, it's

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going to go wrong. And you can see it's like kind of blind in the obvious. It's going to

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go wrong. But the guy's like, no, this is fine. This is all good. And I've got that

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feeling. It was almost like, you know, when he was like with the big vault as well as

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like, God, it really reminds me of the T-Rex pen. But

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Yes. Yeah. No, I really liked that. Uh, Henry van Staten. I think his name is like as an

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opposite of the doctor. I think he's brilliant. They're both obsessed with space and the stars.

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Yeah. They're from different times, but they're both geniuses. But one of them just wants

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to go and experience it. And the other, I think the doctor even says you want to bury

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it underground. You're as far away from the stars as you can be. I think he's a brilliant

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sort of opposite character. Uh, to the doctor. Yeah. I think that's really cool. Yeah. Well,

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it's interesting because both of them are there to preserve alien artifacts. You know,

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the doctor through actual kind of actually doing something and, and then starting through

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actually preserving them in a museum, you know, and it's, I mean, it's a debate that's

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still going on now. I mean, you see it in the news all the time. You know, us, us Brits

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were kleptomaniacs back in the day. You know, we, we stole everything that wasn't bolted

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down and to be honest, you go down to a pub nowadays and you know, you, you try and pull

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the chair and it's bolted to the floor for the, for the same reason. But it's that kind

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of thing that, you know, what, what belongs in a museum, you know, like Indiana Jones,

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does it belong in a museum or does it give it where it is? Yeah, exactly. Is it black

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panther as well? When, uh, is it kill monger? He literally goes in and raids the museum

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to get the vibranium, get the vibranium. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. No spot on. Yeah.

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Because he goes through and he has an interesting thing where he asks about the, uh, I think

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it's like a hammer, uh, tongue, ax thing. And he, and he, he asked the guide about it

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and she says, Oh, it was taken in not present day Ghana or something. And he says, no, no,

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no, no, no, it was found there, but it was originally from there. You know? And again,

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it's an interesting debate, you know, what, what belongs in a museum and what belongs,

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well not belongs, but what deserves to be left alone. Yeah. Which I like. So it's all

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going to be a left alone though. They then, uh, introduce us to the one living being that

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they've got in the collection. Um, which, as I said, the doctor describes as a great

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space dustbin, which I thought was hilarious. I've got to say I'm on the train absolutely

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cracking up. Um, yeah, it's my first, I mean, of course, you know, I don't live under a

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rock. I know that the Daleks are, but it's a very, very interesting first, you know,

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kind of interaction with the dog. Isn't it fucking brilliant when it's, when I love it,

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the doctor's first interaction pitch black room. He's having a little look around the

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blue eye stalk. And then you see it starts to talk and it's fucking earlight start aluminum

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and his face just drops. And I was going to ask like, firstly, what do you think of the

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design of the rusty old Dalek? Yeah, I quite like it. I mean, you know, from what I understood

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Daleks were always shiny gold and you know, that, that was it. So I quite like it because

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as you find out later in the episode, it actually came to earth ages ago. They did only, they

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just found it. So yeah, exactly. It's one time, you know that and that's the, they,

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the design of that was perfect. It showed that this isn't a Daleks that's fresh off

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the line. It's, it's, it's a Dalek that's been through a lot, you know, and I quite

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like that. And it was very, very interesting because again, knowing nothing about the background,

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I know that the doctor and the Daleks have always had a running in, you know, old who,

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but seeing the doctor pretty much panic and try and get out of the room and the, at the

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site of the Dalek, as you say, as soon as it lights up, his face just drops. And I was

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like, this is the guy that at the moment, the only time we'd ever seen him been slightly

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scared was when he was literally faced with death with, you know, kind of an episode three

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where yeah, you know, they're reaching through and even still he was like, well, you know,

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it is what it is, but seeing this man or alien turn and try and run out the room was just

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like, wow, this is the stakes are high. Yeah. It's pretty cool. What do you think of angry

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Christopher Eccleston then the angry doctor in this totally different side of him? I love

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angry Chris. I just thought this is beautiful. It's just like you get this. And I think that's

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why it works so well as well, because it's such a massive juxtaposition between the normal

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doctor who's very carefree, very knowledgeable, you know, he almost bounces around the room.

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He's very energetic, that kind of, and then suddenly you get this, you know, this being

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that he's just angry and it's not even like kind of an angry, it's almost like a kind

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of hatred. It's hatred. Yeah. Like I think this is the first time we've actually seen

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him lose it. Yeah. Yeah. Because he even still in episode four when they shot the fake alien,

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you know, he was upset that that was that was different. He was upset. He was, you know,

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he wanted to understand more and he was upset that they shot him. Yeah. Almost disappointed.

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Yeah. Yeah. This was, as you say, was hatred, pure hatred. And I just, yeah, it was, it

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was so different. It was like, wow. And it's maintained through the whole episode as well.

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Like he is not, this isn't a fun episode by any means necessary. Like this is a scary

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episode, but yeah, like totally, totally different side of the doctor. And yeah, like I had to,

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I took myself out of it. And I was like, this is such good acting and he's not acting with

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anyone. He's talking to a box. Do you know what I mean? Like in real life, like that

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Dalek, he can't emote with that Dalek, that Dalek can't emote that. That's top fucking

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tier acting, honestly. Oh, for sure. For sure. You know, as you say, there's no, there's

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no actor opposite you giving you cues kind of, you know, it's very, I mean, I've never

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done acting before or anything like that, but I can imagine it's a lot easier to almost

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in theory talk to somebody that's there that can, like kind of given an emotional reaction,

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even if it's just a laugh or, you know, a smile or a sad face or something rather than

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just a box. Exactly. You really must, it almost reminds me of the, have you ever seen the

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behind the scenes film with Jack Nicholson kind of gearing up before he does that fake,

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you know, the, you know, the famous thing for a scene from the Shining where he breaks

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through the door. Oh yeah. Behind the scenes video of him just charging around the room

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with his axe and you're like, wow, that is a mad man. You know, get in the energy, you

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know, and I love it. I just think it was brilliant. But it was an interesting conversation because

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it kind of, I got the feeling because they didn't talk about the space war between the

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Daleks and the time wars, which again, it's been hinted at previous episodes and everything,

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but I think this was the biggest clarification we've got on this, on this time war. Yes.

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Yeah. I think it was very relevant because I almost felt like the doctor almost feels

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like he's Oppenheimer and I say very relevant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The second biggest

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films coming out soon, you know, Barbie being the first, but Oppenheimer is coming out soon

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and you know, which one are you seeing first, Jack? Well, Barbie, cause it comes out first.

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Yeah. It's same day, isn't it? Yeah. But I think there's an earliest from where we are,

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kind of where we are. There's, there's an earlier screen in the Barbie and then there's

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a later screen in the Oppenheimer. Yeah. It's the perfect day out. Fucking the UAE have

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pushed back Barbie to the 31st of August. Well, sucks to be you, doesn't it? Mate, I'm

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genuinely livid about this. I'm so upset. I was genuinely not even taking a piss. This

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looks like a fucking quality film. It does, doesn't it? That's the weirdest thing about

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it. It's just like, I don't know. I mean, I've never had any interest in Barbie, but

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I've heard such good things about it. I know. They're killing it with the marketing. Yeah.

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I'm more gas for Barbie than I am for Oppenheimer for fuck's sake. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it's,

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it's interesting. I mean, you, you watch, it's going to be one of those things that

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is so hyped up and then it just knows those, but I don't actually think it's going to though.

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I feel like it's got a good enough following now that people are going to go see it. And

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you know, it's a, it's a, it's a game of numbers, isn't it? You know, you, you kind of, if you've

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got enough people that see it, there's always going to be a fall off anyway, but the more

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people that see it, the more like the less the fall off is percentage wise. So, yeah,

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exactly. Exactly. No, I actually hope it does really well in a year where movies and blockbusters

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are failing all over the place. But anyway, we've, we've gone way off topic there.

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Max, we've got something. So yeah, Dr. I felt like was a bit like Oppenheimer. You know,

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he knows that what, whatever he did in the time war was needed to be done, but he kind

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of looking back, it feels like that everybody apart from him and this Dalek that's trained

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up opposite him survived that that's it, which it's got a massive guilt. And I feel that

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that's part of the reason he has this kind of hatred for the Dalek as well, because he's

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like, your species calls me to do that. You know, you forced my hand. I didn't want to

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do that. And we've seen that he always wants to try and take the peaceful option out. You

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know, the first episode he wants to negotiate. He's there to negotiate. He's not there to,

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you know, decimate planets and kill a species. He wants peace, you know, through negotiation,

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which is the best way forward. So very, very interesting. And I've got to say as well,

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I mean, the sad Dalek, I never thought you could make a kind of a robot a moat until

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I watched the sad Dalek. I was thinking the same thing is very good, isn't it? Because

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it is like a sad little puppy. It is. Yeah. I mean, the ears stay the same. You called

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him ears. So I'm going to call him ears as well. But they don't move, but they look like

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they drop. I'm like, oh. I did get taken out of that scene with the sad Dalek and Rose

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because there's one point where it's looking at Rose sort of like its eye like, and then

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it drops as if it's staring at her tits. And I was totally took me out of the moment for

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a second. But yeah, sad Dalek is very good. Well, no, because the sad Dalek is with the

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doctor as well, because he gets very sad. And the doctor's like, well, no, he doesn't

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call him scum. But you know, he's like, no, you know, you're you're the bad guy, which

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was interesting. That then brings us on to the next interaction between Rose and the

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technician whose name I've forgotten. Was he named in the episode? The British technician?

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Yeah. Adam. Adam. That's it. So he so they both go into his lab, I guess you could call

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it. His fuck pad. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. I've got to say straight away, I'm not sure what

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it is, but Rosa straight on the British accent. She was like, Yeah, I'm digging the British

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accent. Yeah. Where was his accent from? I was trying to figure it out. I think it's

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just a generic English accent. Was it really? Yeah, because he does his little awkward,

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fantastic like the doctor in it. Oh, I just made my blood crawl. But yeah, she clearly

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sees the doctor in him. This is someone that she might be able to shag. Yeah, no, agreed,

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agreed. And I've got the same part of my notes was the sexual tension was thick enough to

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cut with a knife. And then suddenly, Rose goes, wouldn't you rather go downstairs? And

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I was like, Whoa, very subtle, sexually, I actually didn't pick up on that. Yeah, no,

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I was like, Okay, fair enough. So no, but I think you're right. I think it's someone

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that she sees. She's obviously got, you know, a very good relationship with the doctor or

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forming relationship with the doctor, but kind of another human that's a similar age

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to her that's also from Earth. I think she kind of that's the thing that's missing with

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the doctor because of course, the doctors not not from Earth. And, you know, so I kind

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of got that. And it's going to be interesting to see where it goes at the end of the episode

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not kind of next episode as well. Yeah, because he's a companion now. He is a companion now.

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Yeah. So yeah, so then of course, it goes on about the time war. To which I put why

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didn't the time was just stand at the top of some stairs. And then of course, later

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in the episode, the Dalek starts flying and I'm like, Okay, fair enough. The dog is flying

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now. So it's like that. Go on. I was gonna say it's almost like that thing where you

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find a bug and the bugs crawling your brave and everything. And then it starts flying

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and you just get the hell out. You just run. Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, that's it. Kind of

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got that feeling there. So the writer of this episode has only written one episode of Dr.

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This one. But he there's an interview with him. And he goes that when he got commissioned

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to write, he asked his wife, who was also Dr. Who fan, he said, What do you find silly

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about the Daleks? And she said, the silly sucker that they have the fact that they can't

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turn around properly, and the fact that they can't get upstairs. So he said he made it

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his mission to make all of those things scary in this episode. And other than the stupid

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line, which is what are you gonna do sucker me to death? I think he works right here.

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The Dalek is scary in this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, three of those points I get, I still

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put the magic space sucker that does everything. He just I saw that. Okay, yeah, fair enough.

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I get it. Why not? I just Yeah, it was just a strange add on really, he was just like,

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surely you'd want something that, you know, I mean, you look at robotics and how they're

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progressing now, you know, you got this kind of I think the latest thing for like, ripping

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is like almost like an octopus thing. So it's almost like an octopus, like, if you look

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at like, kind of six or seven octopus arms, and they come together, they're all kind of

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jointed. Surely, an advanced alien race would have gone, maybe a space sucker isn't the

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best thing to pick things up with. Maybe maybe maybe that's why we're not on a, you know,

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an advanced there. Yeah, exactly. I do love the idea, because this is 2005. Right. So

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the internet is still pretty fresh. And I think they say something at the beginning,

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like, I own the internet as if, yes, that was a thing. And then you've got the dark,

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but they sort of roses, like, how can you own the internet? So I'm like, do they understand

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what the internet is at this point or not? And then you have the Dalek that just smashes

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his sucker into one computer, and then gets so fucking Palpatine electric shocked. And

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the doctor's like, he's downloading the whole internet. Are you guys you don't know what

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the internet is yet? Yeah. I'll tell you what, if he'd have done that now, he probably would

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have, he would have probably driven off the top of some top. Yeah. Well, we'd have self

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destructed straight away and then it'd be no, yeah, that'd have been dangerous. But

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yeah, no, it was, it was an interesting and I've got to say going on from the whole Palpatine

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thing, it kind of did the opposite of Palpatine. He regenerated instead of the old man that

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says good, you know, I was, but yeah, no, that was, that was interesting. It was quite

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a satisfying thing to watch the Dalek almost regenerate. Yeah, actually was, wasn't it?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was quite interesting, you know, it was satisfying. Yeah, yeah. A

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little bit like the opposite of popping bubble wrap, you know, with the little like nodes

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on the outside, they were unpopping. I was like, oh, I can't like that. Yeah, it was

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a bit ASMR. He wasn't it? Yeah. I liked it. I liked it. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, the Dalek

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is the Dalek is scary when it's middle bit starts flipping around and spinning and how

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it takes out all of those scientists, because the doctor says, give the scientists and everybody

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a gun and the Dalek just fucking eliminates them all. Brilliant. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I

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mean, I know we've skipped over a few bits there. One thing I do think is a little bit

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important that I found out from the episode, Dr. S2 hearts. Yes. Yeah. So that's confirmed

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in this episode. Did you not know that? That's quite like a state of the series. Didn't know

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that I was like, oh, okay. And it made me laugh because then he was like, oh, I'm going

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to pattern that and I'm going to make and I was like, it's going to be interesting to

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see how he does that. But fair enough. But yeah, that was quite interesting. I was expected

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to say yes as well, because they go through the scan again, like a second time and I was

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expected saying yes to turn up, but they, yeah, they kind of cut away. And but yeah,

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two hearts. Very interesting. Is that explained further down the line? What I got two hearts

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or is that just a thing that all time? Also two hearts and yeah, I think it's just a little

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bit of law that they added in. Apparently, I think they've got something like seven brain

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