S1 E1 - Rose
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Hello everybody and welcome to the first episode of what we are temporarily calling Dr Who?
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With a question mark, is that right Jack?
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I think that's spot on to be honest because one of the two of us, or soon to be one of
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the three of us, has never actually seen Dr Who before.
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Yes, exactly.
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Which I know many of you have just cringed at and have gone, how have you never seen
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Dr Who yet you're appearing on a Dr Who podcast?
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But that's the whole point, so that's part of the name.
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So Josh, break it down for the audience at home, what we're kind of looking to achieve
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and do.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So I am, Josh, with me is my co-host Jack Phillips.
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Jack Phillips is the one that has never seen Dr Who before.
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So in the lead up to David Tennant coming back, and just to give me another excuse to
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really re-watch every episode, we thought why don't we sort of go episode by episode,
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week by week.
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We're also going to have a third party joining us, sorry Bradley Fuller.
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He might join us next week, I think he'll probably flake on it, but he's also a big
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fan of Dr Who.
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So I've watched every episode since it came out, live since I was seven years old, whatever.
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My favourite show, absolutely loved bits.
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Jack, you haven't, right?
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I haven't, no.
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Never seen it before.
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I've never seen it before, I'm aware of it through conversations with you and Brad.
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And I know that at some point we're going to be getting to who the best doctor is or
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who you think the best doctor is.
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I know there is going to be many an argument had on that.
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But no, myself, I've never seen any episodes before.
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As I said, I'm aware of it.
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I listened to a favourite YouTuber of mine, he does a really, really good podcast on it.
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He's a massive fan, but I've never seen it.
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And of course, that's part of the reason I agreed to do this podcast is I thought, you
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know, I'm 25 years down the line, should probably start watching it at some point.
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So here we are.
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All right, so let's jump straight in with season one, episode one.
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You've never seen it before.
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I saw it for the first time when I was seven years old.
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And I think I've watched it a thousand times since.
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Overall thoughts on the episode?
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I've got to say in terms of first episodes, I thought it was actually very good.
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You always look at, I mean, I know that of course Doctor Who had run previously in the
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old Who, but as far as I could tell, this was a complete fresh reboot.
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It'd been seven years between.
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Not a reboot.
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Well, kind of like, but they brought it back.
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You know, when was the last episode before Rose?
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89 or something, something like that.
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So we're looking at kind of 15, 20 years in between the two.
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So it's trying to capture a new audience, trying to, you know, reignite that Doctor
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Who spark.
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And I've got to say, I think it was a great, almost, it's almost like a pilot episode,
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isn't it?
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You know, you're reintroducing the Doctor, reintroducing the companion.
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You want a little bit of mystery, you know, kind of an overall mystery and everything.
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And I've got to say, I thought it was very good.
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And it really made me miss the Naltes.
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Because it's very Naltes, isn't it?
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It's quite dated now.
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It's quite dated.
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It's when she got the generic alarm tone, you know, the little alarm clock radio.
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And it was with the flip phone.
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And you know, I'm just sitting there thinking, yeah, we grew up at the time.
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You know, we did.
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Yeah, we did.
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I'm going to, I'm just going to say straight off the bat.
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I fucking love this.
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I'm going to be critical as much as I can about this episode.
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This is like, this is top tier television, man.
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This is nearly 20 years old and it's still sick, right?
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It stands up.
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It does stand up.
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I've got to say, I mean, it did make me laugh because I think if you really watch the, I
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don't know what they actually called the mannequin, like the actual mannequins themselves.
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The autons, yeah.
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There you go.
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That's it.
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So when you notice when they walk, they kind of walk with their heads a little bit tilted
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up and I'm assuming that's because there were no eyes, like I kind of eye holes in the masks
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and the only holes they could get was I'm assuming on the bottom of the nose.
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Yeah, that's, so let's talk about the autons.
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There's some scary shit, right?
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Like that first, when that head tilts that first time, that's quite scary, right?
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Straight off the bat.
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You know, you go down, I mean, first of all, I wasn't sure if she was actually trying to
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steal money because I couldn't work out.
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As she goes to walk out, the security guard hands her a bag of money, which I then understand
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is the, you know, I think it was like a kind of a lotto syndicate thing or something like
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that.
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A syndicate, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Presumably, yeah.
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I'm assuming so.
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Yeah.
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I mean, maybe she just forgot cash out or something.
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Who knows?
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But she's straight in the basement.
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I mean, straight away, you're on edge.
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You're like, what's going on here?
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It's dark, it's dingy.
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Well, you know, it's even, so it's this hectic, so they start off with the montage of their
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day to day life, right?
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I just want to say one thing about that.
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I fucking love it.
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Mickey is brilliant in it.
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Rose is brilliant in it.
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But they leave their rubbish on the fountain.
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Did you notice that?
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It put me on edge.
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They're eating lunch and then they just leave their sandwich wrappers and drinks and they
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just walk away.
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I know.
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I mean, that is that true naughty, you know, I mean, that's the thing.
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I mean, I'm not sure if that's true.
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Nowadays, cancelled on Twitter, that would have been it.
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Exactly.
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Quicker than you can leave the rubbish.
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But yeah, so you've got that hectic sort of montage.
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Music is quite quirky.
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And then the lift opens up on the basement or closes at the top and the music stops and
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it's dead stop.
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Yeah, you're right.
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That eerie atmosphere is created straight away.
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Right.
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I made a note and then I had to scribble it out.
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When she goes to what's the guy's name?
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Is it Wilson?
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The door says CEO.
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What the fuck is the CEO of the company doing collecting lottery money with an office in
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the basement?
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What's this about?
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Funny thing is I did exactly the same thing because I thought when the security got hands
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of the money, I thought he said go and find the CEO.
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So I wrote why is the CEO's office in the basement?
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I mean, if you're the CEO, you want a nicer view rather than kind of a concrete box.
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But I thought looking back at the sign, I think it said like kind of engineer CEO.
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Yes.
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Well, no, so really, yeah, that's why I struck the note out because then later, I think she
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exposed to the doctor and he says who is Wilson?
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She goes the electrical operator or something like that.
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I think that's sort of my side, CEO in the basement.
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That sounds ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So that's all happening in basement, terrifying or tons.
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And then they're about to karate chop her in the head.
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I think is how they're going in for their kill.
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Right.
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And the doctor grabs her hand.
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What do you think of Christopher Eccleston as the doctor?
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I like him, to be honest.
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I really, really do like him again.
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First impression, he's got that kind of quirkiness, I guess.
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There's never he's very kind of almost got a colorful attitude.
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You know, it's very matter of fact, you know, and it kind of goes on slightly later in the
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episode when they meet Rose's mom and Rosie's mom, you know, kind of getting it on light
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in the candle.
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She's like, I'm just out the bar for that stuff.
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But he's just like, oh, yeah, I can see you're in your room.
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Oh, yeah, I can see you.
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You know, there's no he's very matter of fact, but he's very flamboyant.
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He's active, you know, and he and he and he wrote I'm jumping around a bit, but even right
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towards the end of the episode as well.
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Straight away, he's talking about convention.
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You know, he does he does everything by the book for the fairness of God.
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We'll come back to that.
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Definitely.
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Yeah, we'll definitely come back.
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You're right.
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So I actually at the start of it, I put a note saying, is he too normal in this?
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That was my thing, because having watched Doctors Down the Line, I quite like the alienness
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about them.
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I thought, is he too normal in this at the beginning?
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He's very like you said, matter of fact.
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But no, I think you're absolutely right.
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That scene in the when he goes into the apartment for the first time when he meets Jackie for
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the first time, he's fucking brilliant man where he's just so jovial and he's flicking
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through the books and he's doing all this sort of stuff.
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That's excellent.
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That's you're right.
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When he yeah, he reads through the magazine.
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Oh, that won't work.
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She's gay and she's an alien or something like that.
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Okay, this is cool.
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This is cool.
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It is brilliant.
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And that that I think, as I said, you know, you've had the luxury of seeing the other
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doctors and seeing what actor brings what to the table.
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That's it.
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But as a first impression, I think it's brilliant, you know, and it's yeah, it's very good.
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But the interesting thing is, is talking about when he's in Rose and her mum's apartment
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for the first time, I'm sure because he looks in the mirror, it's the first time he sees
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himself from the mirror and he says about his ears and everything like that.
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I am sure it took me five attempts to read this on it.
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I'm pretty sure he says, I'd like to be a lady.
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I don't know.
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I have to read what you did.
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You know, put the subtitles on.
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No, that's probably a fair point.
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Actually, you know what?
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I may do that next week.
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There you go.
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But yeah, no, I'm sure.
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Which is interesting because of course, I do know I'm not I don't live under a rock,
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but I know that the previous doctor was Jodie Whittaker.
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Yeah.
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Well, the future doctor or the future doctor.
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Yeah.
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But you know, for us, the last doctor, you know, has gone through.
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Interesting.
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I've never picked up on that.
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I'd be surprised if it is that.
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But yeah, OK, no, fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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But yeah, that's fucking awesome.
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What do you think of Rose?
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Yeah, you know what?
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Again, very noughties, you know, kind of bootcut jeans and or flare jeans or whatever they
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were called.
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But I've got to say, there is a question I had to ask myself is after everything that
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had happened, happened, would you jump into a random box with a stranger you have just
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met in the past?
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All for that.
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Would you actually jump in there or not?
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I don't know if this is just even if you knew that this because she's been in the targets,
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like she knows that that is magical.
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I think I probably would.
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Yeah, I think I probably would.
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I'm not sure.
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Right.
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Hold into your head because obviously she says no initially, right?
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He goes away, he comes back and he says, by the way, it travels in time.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And she fucking runs for it.
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Hold that in mind.
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OK.
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That may or may not come back in a few episodes time.
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Well, I'm guessing it's something to do with the dad.
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Which what?
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Well, because there's no dad involved, is there?
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So I'm assuming the dad's run off or the dad's dead.
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Just hold it in mind.
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We'll get to it.
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We'll get to it down the line.
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But Rose is fucking brilliant.
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There is not genuinely, this is such a good episode, there's not a moment's wasted dialogue
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in this.
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Even as soon as she gets in the lift, he starts like quizzing her, go on then, who could it
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be?
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Who could it be?
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She's like, oh, well, it must be students because how else would you get a group together
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like me to do it?
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And his face lights up and he's like, yes, brilliant.
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And then if we jump to the end, she does her gymnastics skills and everything.
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She's a sick companion because she does things herself.
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Right.
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That's what's quite, she shows that she's not on the same level as the doctor.
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She's never dealt with aliens and stuff like that, but she can hold her own.
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Right.
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And that's why the doctor's impressed with her.
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Do you all agree?
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Yeah, I do agree.
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Because the whole point of her companion is they fill in the missing pieces of the main
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character.
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Agreed.
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So the doctor provides that knowledge of alien life and the technology and almost the initial
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kind of plan.
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You know, he's like, we're doing this.
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This is how we're doing it.
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And then, well, for example, the kind of the conclusion of this episode, the doctor has
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a plan, locate the, you know, kind of the common, what the main molten plastic was called
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now.
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Ah, the nesting consciousness.
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That's it.
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The nesting consciousness.
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You know, you can't do that, reason with it, get it to leave Earth and that's it.
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That's the initial plan.
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Of course, he then, that doesn't happen.
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He can't reason with it.
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So Rose then has to make a plan B and then she comes in if she says she uses her gymnastic
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skills and that's it.
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Which never come up again.
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That's such a weird inclusion because it works in the episode.
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No, it was swinging on a rope or on a chain or whatever it was.
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But like that should again, we're jumping ahead, but that never comes back.
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She never uses anything remotely gymnastic-esque again.
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Oh, from memory.
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Anyway, that's such a weird inclusion.
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I reckon.
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Again, I love it.
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I don't think there's anything wasted, but that to me is a bit, especially considering
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it never comes back.
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No, that's true.
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Well, there you go.
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I mean, that's it.
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I mean, look, it could almost have that kind of pilot episode thing.
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A few things that I've watched previously where they've had pilot episodes, they mentioned
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things because it's all to do with the test audience as well.
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You've got to remember.
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Yeah, true.
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And a test audience may have turned around and said, oh, that was really good, but why
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was she swinging on a rope?
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That's not a chain.
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So you just don't know, do you?
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I've got to say though, I was really, really interested talking about pilot things and
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test audiences.
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Really, really intrigued that the BBC decided, someone at the BBC decided that we have these
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mannequin monsters.
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Brilliant.
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There's male mannequin monsters, female mannequins, even children mannequins, which I thought was
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interesting.
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But the initial chase down the hallway has a female mannequin with its top open.
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With a bit of cleavage on, shut up.
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And I was just, I was sitting there, I had to laugh because I was just like, someone
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somewhere in the BBC made a decision in the wardrobe thing and they went, that is what
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we want.
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I just can't wrap my brain around why they would do that.
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It's a very-
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Wrap your brain if you're part of the pack.
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Yeah, I just realised that.
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I mean, that's it.
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I couldn't work out why.
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I mean, it's just funny, but maybe just have it a lot.
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Maybe you just-
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I totally missed that.
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I totally missed the tits.
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That was the other thing.
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Because there was two things.
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There was two things, like two things, writing notes, because again, I'm writing notes as
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I'm watching it like you did.
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Two things.
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One, the word mannequin took me several attempts to learn how to correctly spell Boudet mannequin.
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Because that is a difficult word.
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And the second thing is, of course, when I saw it, all I just wrote was mannequin boobs.
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And that was it.
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It was just like, yeah, that's all I need on that one.
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But yeah, no, I've got to say though, it was, because something I have heard of Doctor Who
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and I'm sure I'm going to be seeing more of this, is they always do it with a limited
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budget.
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Yes.
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It's never over the top CGI and everything like that.
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And you could see that.
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I mean, as I said, I appreciate it.
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This was set in, what was this, 2006?
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Five, yeah.
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It would have been filmed in 2004.
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It was released in five, yeah, literally.
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And you can tell that.
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But at the same time though, I thought it actually stood up pretty well.
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I've seen worse films now that wouldn't stand up as well as that did.
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Well, it had better be.
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It had better be.
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It had better be.
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It had better be.
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It had better be.
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That's another question, but no, I disagree with that.
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So these mannequins, apparently there's no CGI.
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There's a zip on the back of the head, which they CGI out on the back of the shots.
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Other than that, it's all completely practical.
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Yeah.
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Insane.
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I like it.
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I think it's brilliant.
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And a lot more films need to look back at that.
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I know we have the luxury of CGI and everything like that, but you do miss that kind of...
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I look back at the old Star Wars films, and I know that the old Star Wars films were made
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with toys and props and everything like that, but it just looks cool.
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That's it.
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And yeah, it is interesting.
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I mean, that was the other thing as well that did make me chuckle was you could tell that
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they were obviously shooting it on a budget because they go past the London light, which
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of course is a very photograph placed in London and everything like that.
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And I'm assuming they probably couldn't afford to shut down the park outside the London light
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during the day.
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So they had to, I'm assuming, shoot it at night because that was the only kind of leverage
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that they could get to show it down.
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But again, they made it work.
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They obviously had a budget and they were like, right, we have to work within this budget.
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And they've done that. And I think that's brilliant.
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You know, impressive.
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Talking of that nighttime shot, there's a bit where they're running across whatever
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bridge it is in London. I don't know which bridge it is.
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The one where you can see Parliament in the background.
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They're running across it and two double decker London buses drive past.
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They didn't own those double decker buses.
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They didn't rent it.
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They literally made Billy Piper and Christopher Ecclestone stand on the side of the road
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until a bus naturally drove past.
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And then they're like, shit, right, action.
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Let's go. Let's go.
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That's how they did that.
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I love it.
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Could you imagine that happening nowadays?
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You just wouldn't know.
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You know, Christopher Ecclestone was stood there with a cup of coffee that someone had
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just made and he was there just about to take a sip and then suddenly just someone just
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shouts bus and he has to throw the cup and that's it.
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Yeah.
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I hope you feel you messed up the line.
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Oh yeah.
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What do you think of, we'll just briefly touch on it.
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What do you think of Nick?
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He's not much of a character in this, but yeah.
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Um, do I think he was hard done by, by the, you know, kind of thing?
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I mean, I've got to say, I thought they were going to go ballsy right out the bat and they
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were going to kill him off.
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I genuinely, I thought I was watching it.
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It's when he gets absorbed by the wheelie game.
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Oh, that's, we'll talk about that in a second.
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That's strange.
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That's where the CGI looks the worst.
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I reckon.
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Yeah.
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It was a bit strange, but going back to Mickey, I genuinely thought that that was going to
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be, is it a McGuffin that you kind of have that's your, your goal to go towards an objective?
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I can't remember if it was a McGuffin or not, but I thought that was going to be her reason.
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He dies so she then decides to pack it up and travel with the doctor.
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To follow with the doctor.
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Like I, her workplace was blown up.
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I, yeah, with the doctor.
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The boyfriend dies of a wheelie bin and I genuinely thought that they were going to kill
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the mum off as well.
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But like, it was just like, okay, fair enough.
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You know, and I don't know if he comes back or not.
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I mean, he could provide some level of humanity for Rose, I guess, that kind of, you know,
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missing that homesickness for Rose when she's traveling with the doctor.
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It's almost like, this is brilliant, but I miss this back home.
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So I'm assuming they'll visit her down the line.
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But he does.
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But I see, I especially, maybe having seen in the future episodes, but maybe not, no
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spoilers.
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I've always thought Mickey was sound and I used it hard done by.
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But then there's that bit just after her, the department store gets blown up and he
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comes around, he's like, oh my God, are you okay?
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You need something to drink.
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And she's like, there's a football game on, isn't there?
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And he goes, yeah, I'm actually just going to go and watch it if that's all right.
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I'm like, come on, mate.
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What sort of a boyfriend are you?
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Who would do that?
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Well, I don't know.
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You've been out in the UK for too long, haven't you?
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Yeah.
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Maybe.
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Do you think that's normal?
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That sounds like a dick thing to do.
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To be honest, though, I guess that kind of thing was to show that maybe a kind of a sense
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of ignorance, you know, the whole state of ignorance is bliss.
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Yeah.
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I think that's that kind of that level of he it's not because he's being a dick about
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it.
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It's just he doesn't realize the gravity of the situation.
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It's almost like he's you know, she's I don't know, lost a trainer or something like that.
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And he's like, oh, okay, yeah, let's just come down the pub and just forget about it.
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He doesn't he doesn't correspond with her workplace literally got blown up while she
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was there.
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Yeah, I think that shows.
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Yeah, I think it shows like there's clearly a kink in that dynamic and she's clearly not
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that happy or satisfied with the relationship.
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And I think that's amplified when and when he's being kidnapped by the SD and he's just
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hugging the TARDIS.
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I don't want to do anything.
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I'm just going to leave him.
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I think he said that one point.
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Leave him.
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Let's go.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Yeah, no, he's at the door and he just says, leave him.
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Let's go.
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But I would like to think, though, right, if somebody I knew very well, like like Rose
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and Mickey, if they got taken over by a plastic monster and I was there a very intimate dinner,
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I'd like to believe I'd have noticed a difference.
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You know, if we went for dinner and my hair was completely made of shiny plastic, you'd
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probably notice.
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I was going to put pizza.
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You'd probably pick it up.
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I would hope so.
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And again, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking she's really not noticed.
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She just has a really.
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There's clearly something wrong in that relationship, right?
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Yeah.
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But I don't know.
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Again, it's something I'm assuming they're going to explore further down the line.
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And as I said, I'm kind of in the dark on this one.
487
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But yeah, I think it's yeah, it could be could be an interesting kind of subplot to pick
488
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up with, as I said.
489
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I think if anything, if I was a better man, I'd say that they will probably do that homesickness.
490
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You know, she something happens, reminds her of Mickey and she goes, I miss home.
491
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You know, I think she's great, but I miss home.
492
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But there you go, listeners.
493
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If he said that live on air, if that doesn't happen, please feel free to leave comments
494
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berating Jack, go to his house and throw toilet paper.
495
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Please do.
496
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Not going to be the worst thing I've probably said on this.
497
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The worst theory I've had anyway.
498
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Right.
499
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So on that relationship to the two of them, 2005 was a weird time.
500
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She had to go around Mickey's house just to use the Internet.
501
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Oh, don't.
502
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It days it a bit, doesn't it?
503
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Oh, don't.
504
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It's really, don't go on my email.
505
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I also say she she doesn't Google.
506
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She uses whatever search engine she says.
507
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And she goes, Dr.
508
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Blue Box.
509
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And I made a note of this.
510
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Yeah.
511
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One hundred and ninety three results come up.
512
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Four hundred and ninety three.
513
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Full stop.
514
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That's it.
515
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I then put it into Google to see how many results come up.
516
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Would you like to take a guess?
517
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Well, I'm getting you're not.
518
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The only doctor who found her Google Dr.
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Blue Box anymore.
520
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Just give it a guess.
521
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Fairly.
522
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My is four hundred and ninety three is the benchmark.
523
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I'm going to say twenty five thousand plus seven hundred and thirty seven million.
524
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I know it's going to be more, but that's no.
525
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I mean, she would never find Clive's website if you search for it today.
526
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Yeah, no, for sure.
527
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,160
I mean, you know, today she would have probably found another way of contacting him.
528
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You know, tick tock.
529
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She could have done a tick.
530
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So let's talk about Clive and his weird website.
531
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She's very lucky she didn't get raped in that shed.
532
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Right.
533
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That shed where the windows are boarded up.
534
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Come on.
535
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Very.
536
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You have to keep the CIA out.
537
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You know, you can't have the window with no newspaper.
538
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I mean, come on.
539
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But I think she knew she was all right there when the sun opened the door, because if he'd
540
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have opened the door himself, then you'd have been like, OK, obviously he lives in his own.
541
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But when the sun opened the door and then the wife was behind him, you're like, yeah,
542
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I can trust these.
543
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You know, I mean, security, maybe anybody listening wants to kidnap me.
544
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That is the way to do it.
545
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You know, just hire a hire a child and a woman and go, yeah, that'd be all right.
546
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You'll drop your guard immediately.
547
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Oh, yeah.
548
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I did like the casual sexism where the wife also goes, oh, woman is interested in your
549
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website about the doctor.
550
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Yeah.
551
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,160
And that's a pretty accurate comment on the fan base nowadays as well.
552
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That's true.
553
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:12,160
So I googled Clive's website and it is still a real working website.
554
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How brilliant is that?
555
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That's a good place.
556
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,160
It's pretty cool.
557
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It's got a there's a contact us page section there.
558
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,160
You should go through it just last and it's got comments from just loads of randoms.
559
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But one of the users that's left the comment was Marty McFly.
560
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And he's just left the comment something like that man stole my DeLorean or something along
561
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those.
562
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,160
That attention to detail is pretty cool.
563
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I like that.
564
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That's brilliant.
565
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But that again, that's when you when you have people that have genuine affection for the
566
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yeah, for that, that thing, you know, that's what you want.
567
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That's that's what a lot of things miss out.
568
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But you know, Marvel doesn't have that anymore.
569
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You know, Marvel used to have that, but it doesn't anymore.
570
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You know, so yeah, exactly.
571
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That's nice.
572
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That's the one.
573
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Yeah, it's pretty cool.
574
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And then I was doing some research into it turns out Clive when he was a kid, his fascination
575
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for the doctor is when he was a kid, he traveled with the best doctor, the top doctor, Peter
576
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Cawley.
577
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,160
So I thought that was quite interesting.
578
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They go on a Christmas adventure with each other.
579
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I think is what it said.
580
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That's where his fascination comes in.
581
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,160
It was going to be after because they bumped him off, didn't they?
582
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,160
At the end of the episode, mate, that is I forget.
583
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,160
Let's just jump straight to it.
584
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,160
Point blank.
585
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Shoot him in the face in front of his family.
586
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I mean, this is a kid show.
587
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I know.
588
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And that was the thing as well.
589
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:40,160
Again, one of the last points I made was southern guns because you have these mannequin monsters,
590
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right?
591
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,160
They're going to, you know, and this is the thing as well.
592
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,160
You know, when they were chasing Rose down the act, like kind of the basement hallways,
593
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,160
they were trying to go to the church.
594
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,160
Yeah, like a little bit of a karate chop and that's it.
595
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,160
And then suddenly they're in the middle of a shopping center and they've all got straps.
596
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,160
And it's just like, where has that come from?
597
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I don't understand.
598
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,160
And I know this is Dr.
599
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,160
Who and it's sci fi and everything, but where is the firing mechanism in the arm?
600
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,160
You know, it's maybe that department store was bigger.
601
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,160
The department store was building guns into the mannequin.
602
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,160
That's the only explanation for it.
603
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,160
Like the baddest security in the world.
604
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,160
Yeah, that's it.
605
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,160
All you have to do is you have a shoplifter.
606
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,160
They just press a button behind the till and then suddenly the mannequins just all turn around.
607
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,160
It's like Robocop.
608
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,160
It's just like season six.
609
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,160
I don't know.
610
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,160
I'll tell you what, you'd be bricking it if you walked out.
611
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,160
Yeah, I'd extend you that, by any means.
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